Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

Its because we are incapable of achieving a champions league place without everyone else being sh"te

Loads of ifs...United win we win tomorrow would you still believe we couldn't f"ck it up

Biggest if in that dream is actually winning tomorrow

something like 2 wins and 2 draws as long as one of them is against Chelsea will have us very close to finishing 4th/5th.

I think arsenal fans could be more disappointed than us by end of the season.

City soon to be out of the running? Have you looked at the table recently?

If City win today it's in their hands.

Regarding our own game, I'd take a draw now.

It's not in their hands if they win today

They could win all remaining games and finish 2nd

In their hands means they can get enough points in their games left to guarantee winning the title no matter what Arsenal do.

A City win means it's in nobody's hands

Hopefully Arsenal draw or win (I think it will be a draw) and that ends it

The armchair team selections didn't help at all though

Chiesa clearly isn't good enough but the talk online for half the season was like he's prime Del Piero and Slot was an idiot for never playing him.

Same with all the guff about how Calvin Ramsay had to start games at RB as if anyone is a better choice than Szoboszlai there purely because they're normally a RB no matter the level.

And then there's Rio who looks really really good - I can see an argument for more minutes but I also think it's important to manage a kid who was 16 at the start of the season.

He's for the long term, if we think we've gotten to the stage where we absolutely need to start a 17 year old to have a chance then that's a bigger issue

I hope Rio starts today but it's an away derby so I can see Gakpo instead and Rio off the bench

I'm of the opinion that Slot will be replaced in the summer so not going to spend any energy hoping for it to happen before then, I see it as inevitable.

Until then I just want us to win games and get the points needed for CL football and if I hear anyone continue with saying Slot not playing Chiesa or Ramsay is why we suck is going to annoy me much more than Slot still being manager

I'm just saying it's not in their hands as the poster was saying.

And it's not specifically wanting Arsenal to win, I'd have wanted Spurs or Villa to win if they were in this position

It's more about the fact that I hate what City have done - I would basically call it cheating. I don't want Pep in the league anymore, I don't want any more trophy successes for them to validate their oil money model and illicit payments. Same as Chelsea.

They're not a rival, but in recent years they're much more of a rival than Arsenal who are more similar to us - have bought smart players and created a good squad without cheating their way to do so.

Yes I remember 1989 but 1990 solved that for me. I don't like what happened that year but I really don't like what happened with City when we got 97 and 92 points more than 1989

Add in Pep Linjders going there and players like Bernardo Silva and I want them to win even less.

Easy choice. Have nothing against Arteta, dude plays You'll Never Walk Alone in training

I never suggested they were out of the running! I was just correcting someone who said it would be in their hands

What I did say was I think an Arsenal win would end it for them, not mathematically, sure, but that's my opinion I think it would be a massive psychological blow to beat them in their ground and go 9pts clear at this point of the season

But I think it will be a draw personally, hard place to go and win

I won't be watching it or paying attention to it, but I hope Arsenal do it because I dislike City

You’ve reminded me about my biggest concern with Slot that I didn’t mention in my post.

I read/heard that he doesn’t like a big squad and likes to work with a smaller group (is it 18 ?). That would be a huge concern to me unless you have some real good young talent coming through that you are willing to trust. I do think much larger squads are needed in the current game. He needs to get his head around that but it could also be part of the attraction for the owners.

I have seen plenty of games and I’m not as concerned as most people. He’ll get it right again next season with good additions in the summer.

Who else could have filled in at RB as well as Dom has ? Over the years we’ve had good players like Dom that have had to do a job for the team in other positions.

Hopefully we can secure champions league football for next season and I think Slot will be a much better manager for this experience.

It’s a huge match now against Everton. They put themselves right in the mix for a champions league place with a win today.

Ah got you, I meant over next few games they'll be out of the running. They haven't strung multiple wins together this season like they had in previous seasons. That wasn't in relation to today. If they win they're still in it but they're not favourites

It could be just as easy to suggest that resilience and togetherness we saw in the first five wins was bourne out of the reaction to the Jota tragedy. I said a long time ago the gaps we saw in Slots management skills would vastly exceed his run way as Liverpool coach.

Playing a five back agsinst PSG for the first time. Then leaving off two scorers against Fulham when it was clear we needed an early goal to grab momentum in that game. He just got it wrong too many times.

He also said we could expect Ekitike more than 30 to 35 ganes he plays plus 40 already and is crocked. Hes broken all the wrong records this season. Starting the season with a raft of squad players he had zero intention of playing is in on him Edwards Hughes and cannot be pointed to now as mitigation.

I don't get the Ramsay and Chiesa points

Slot never played them? So if you really feel they could never make a contribution, or even juat hold down the fort lons enough to give regulars a rest, then what was the issue you think didn't help?

I don't remember looking forward to a derby less.