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Boards is better than Reddit

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,604 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They will eventually let you back. A lifetime ban isn't really. Might be a year or more though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Raysin


    I think the Irish Reddit experience would be improved if a few of the Irish subs were aggregated into one, but overall they're okay. The site as a whole is definitely superior to Boards, the amount of content is huge and you'll always find something interesting or fun. I tend to view comments by "New" rather than "Best" for a more natural flow, unless it's a controversial topic where I know there'll be tons of dross, which filtering by "Best" helps control.

    Boards has it's uses but it's an outdated discussion form, in a very outdated format. The number of users seems very small even in the biggest forums and it's not busy enough to check in on daily as very little changes. Subscribers or not, it's days are numbered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Will0483


    Reddit is great for obscure topics. You simply can't discuss current affairs or anything even remotely controversial or political because they censor even the most innocous comment. It's like Stalin's Russia. Only possible to parrot tired leftwing talking points and cliches. It really needs free speech to come back and soon or it will become totally irrelevent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Fozzie Bear


    I only really discovered and got into Reddit when Boards did their God awful change over and the place shut down for ages while they sorted out that cluster fcuk. When it eventually came back it just was not the same and in my opinion has not and will not recover. Its a slow lingering death - and death is going to be the long term outcome unfortunately. Seeing them have to beg for Subs/money to keep the lights on should tell you all you need to know.

    It was brilliant back in the day, great for advice, discussion and just mindlessly scrolling different subs. Always something new or entertaining to keep you coming back. But they have managed to kill all that and drive away a load of the old regular Boardsies too. Its look awful, no app, is out dated and lacks a load of the old features we got on the old boards.

    Reddit is my daily go to now for everything and more that I used to get off Boards. I only occasionally look in here from time to time for very specific topics. Its a crying shame what they did to this place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭bored65


    ”You simply can't discuss current affairs or anything even remotely controversial or political because they censor even the most innocous comment. It's like Stalin's Russia. Only possible to parrot tired leftwing talking points and cliches.”

    That’s a good description of the relevant forum on boards where the People’s Front of Judea owns the place



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    Boards is the parish hall of discussion. Reddit is the UN



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭Tacitus Kilgore DCLXVI


    The non-stop Father Ted references on the main one usually put me off reading threads on it unless I'm particularly interested in the artice/story/whatever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    There's a lot to be said for the parish hall at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Sonic the Shaghog


    You know by a lot of the comments a lot of the Irish users are ones that were banned from boards and just oul cranks in general. You can recognize a lot over time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Raysin


    Instant giveaway that they're middle aged grumps stuck in the past.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,422 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'll never understand what people get out of posting guff like this.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭touts


    And just like the UN most people there talking about Ireland have never set foot in Ireland. That includes the mods of r/Ireland who seem to have no idea of life in Ireland and are widely regarded as among the worst on reddit. Quite a few guys I know on Reddit were banned there for no good reason. One guy got perma banned from that sub and a week long ban from Reddit for pointing out that one of the moderators there was clearly American and had no idea what they were talking about on a topic on Irish life (he directed me to the thread and I have to agree with him). I lurk there a bit and sometimes you can get some good information but most of it seems to be articles from the indo and Irish times that are posted 10 or 15 times for karma farming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Sonic the Shaghog


    Oh I'd meant to ask about this, not sure if it was you or someone else that mentioned this before about the mods not ever been to Ireland.

    Would you be able go into it more? It wouldn't surprise one bit a lot of the posters are Americans of the same ilk as well apparently



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I have come to the conclusion that reddit is better configured.

    It has faster load speeds I rarely end up with error notices. It has better mobile responsiveness I can't use boards by mobile too frustrating.

    The core website vitals are better on Reddit.

    The site enforces SSL (HTTPS) on every page, not just checkout pages.

    The search function on boards is hindered by the fact that the search engine can't understand headings well. Which tells me the site doesn't use headings in semantic HTML.

    Boards needs to use something that will validate code for syntax errors.

    Also the layout and trying to navigate boards is difficult. Too many forums that are dead for a start. Just left there in search results and in dropdowns. What is the point ?? its just server BLOAT website bloat.

    But then im just an idiot so what do i know?

    No offense to anyone working for boards mods or posters yall do yer best etc.

    But the tech side is just far better on reddit.

    EDIT : aaaaand another gateway timeout to post this.

    For all these reasons i can't put boards in the same category as reddit because it doesn't belong there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Reddit is a fat disaster for navigation.

    Does it load quicker? Perhaps. But I can't say that I have any real issues with loading times. Then again, I have a little patience unlike a lot of people today.

    The most annoying thing about Boards is the search function, but that isn't bettered by Reddit either. And there's a constant whackamole going on with re-reg trolls here that's the bane of both users and mods. But on that matter Reddit isn't winning either. There's entire subreddits that are just armies of sad wankers like that.

    I do agree that Boards and Reddit don't really belong in the same category though. Boards is an actual discussion platform. Reddit is a glorified shoutbox.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭growleaves


    All internet discussion boards have hugely lopsided demographics imo.

    Until around 1995, when Windows 95 was introduced and successfully marketed to the general public, Usenet forums were largely made up of computer nerds, hardware technicians, programmers, cryptographers and similar.

    Now reddit/ireland skews more towards arts grads, media grads, Young Sinn Feiners, middle-class yuppies etc., etc.

    Not a coincidence because text-based forms of media naturally attract either tech types or people who are in literature, journalism, communications, marketing, media, PR, HR, scientific research etc. Text-based media implicitly validates text-based, high-verbal-IQ modes of work and study.

    You get a superficial clever-clever vibe - people going on endlessly about "Schrodinger's Cat", "Godwin's Law" and fake 'philosophical razors' (most of which are just preconceived assumptions repeated as if fact) etc. - but a lot of these posters have poor social intuition and rely heavily on abstract social rules and structures.

    Take a look at r/flirting and r/dating_advice to get a sense of what I mean. Non-clueless people do not need to ask each other if it's "okay" to say hello to a woman at a bar (or is it 'harassment').

    I'd be wary of taking life advice from any internet board because there is so much self-selection bias of this kind.

    Even just the fact of getting into discussions and debates over matters suggests a certain kind of personality. Think of the most decisive, least hesitant person you know: do they wait around getting other people's opinions or do they act?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    It would be interesting to be able to compare the bounce rate of Boards to reddit regarding which is easier to navigate.

    I would say Tree Testing would be easier on reddit although I have never tried it out.


    Also threads and topics on reddit are indexed by google better than google indexes things on boards not sure why its both natural language etc.

    I know websites need an internal index search to be intentionally diff from Google but reddits internal index searching just seems to be much better and that is the essence of navigating a site. Boards.ie’s internal search engine applies filters, tokenization rules, and length/score cutoffs that can hide low‑score or short matches. Internal heuristics (and I totally understand why) on boards are tuned for different user intents; this can deprioritize exact matches if they’re old, low‑score, or in small tiny forums that never took off and are now defunct (I have no idea why boards keeps these around as its unlikely people want search results indexed from them).

    Also boards navigation and search function is completely inconsistent between web and mobile app meaning you have to search once on both if you really want to be sure.

    They SAY Reddit search engine supports basic Boolean logic and search operators to filter results by using AND, OR, NOT (using a minus sign -), and quotation marks for exact phrases. But I have a feeling that is rubbish. It seems to be hit and miss for most search engines now and they dont truly use those operators. If i test search its random. Its worse on boards tho.

    Try searching for: "type c" T8 led "2700k" "24 inch" It is not respecting those operators use the basic operators AND OR NOT and its not respecting those either. So both boards and reddit fail there. I have tried these tests a lot. Its been very frustrating. When I use '''' I am finding most search engines don't even preserve exact word order anymore and I don't know if it's just me but I thought that a few years ago most did.

    Using parentheses ( ) in tests shows which operations are executed first in a series but of course ONLY if the searching honours those operators. If they did it would really help you get to know how to use the search engine more efficiently.

    I expect this will get worse now with AI on most sites. Like its really annoying now. You put ''NOT'' for a specific phrase and the results ONLY show that phrase.. I am like WHAT ARE THE RULES JUST TELL ME THE RULES FOR THE SEARCH??

    I can't screen out terms using a minus or a NOT/NOR operator in most search engines now! Even google won't honour that operator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,958 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Well, Board's search function is fucking awful, to put it politely 😁 . But if I have to I go to Google and search a topic with Boards.ie XXXXX in the search box. It usually comes back with a hit that's worthwhile.

    "Hit and miss" is an accurate way of portraying the Google hits for Reddit though.

    While I would be fully on the side of Boards over Reddit, I'm not entirely against the latter. It has it's place for sure. For instance, I'm currently playing 'Subnautica' and Reddit has been great for hints and tips should I want them. There's nothing really like that on here. But, then again, that's not what I am here for. I'm here for discussion and debate, which Boards defeats Reddit with great ease.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Search engines accross the web have generally stopped honouring basic operators like AND /OR /NOT its unfair for me to say its a boards issue although it is an issue here but its every search engine also. I dunno why. I thought it my strings were wrong I was really trying to narrow a search but then I tried an AI Boolean string generator and that **** show made me realize im actually quite good lol! Don't ask Chat GGPT to write Boolean strings lol partic when you can't use them in most search engines now anyway.

    Someone told me they are trying to make it suit a diff type of user its just natural language.

    Its funny because now they are boasting AI/ChatGPT can honour boolean strings .. it can't.

    I would have thought people would be wanting this more and more with the conspiracy stuff and crazy people.

    Anyway if anyone knows a search engine that honours operators like that let me know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,808 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    George Boole would be spinning in his grave, OR maybe NOT. 😀

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    So I am a philosophy grad with a H.Dip in science swoftware and a lot of my friend group and brother's social group are maths PhDs or computer science etc and I have to agree. In my experience very intelligent hard working people need social skills to get through acedemia they know you need to learn these skills and practise them. You need help from your environment to be smart. 😉

    Also you can't take personal advice from strangers who don't know you or where you are living. I read a post by one person who quit a job because some guru told them don't allow people to pay you below your worth etc. But the town the were in didn't have many jobs and this person hasn't found another. Whereas where I am jobs are plentiful right now and I get offered a job about once a week. You can't give general career advice globally without knowing the individual.

    But yes, people who discuss, debate or advise at length unless they are paid to or simply know they enjoy it, could have a hesitant personality type. It's called rumination I think.

    I don't think either Reddit or Boards are better or worse for this.

    THANK YOU FOR THIS GEM. 🤣

    Regarding search engines, my brother said that they may be configured this way deliberately because some people use operators to avoid ads. Or at least ads not relevant to them and maybe google needed a work around. I mean, maybe there are not many people who write huge long strings but lots of people will use ''AND OR NOT'' and maybe it cut down on the amount of ads google was able to show. I was really surprised when I wrote NOT (phrase) and it didn't reverse the value of the operand. It literally showed me every indexed page WITH THAT phrase. I even tried both Parentheses and brackets and then without. That is just a really basic operand. I know sometimes when you learn python or bolean logic you forget it and have to relearn it many times etc. So I don't expect people to be typing long strings even if they were once familiar with it but I think lots of people will miss the basic operands and I don't think that is just a techie thing. I think most people aka the general public would use the basics if they really needed to search for something specific. Never underestimate the intelligence of your users. 😛(Except for me you can't underestimate me enough).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,422 ✭✭✭sporina


    yeah its so much better… zz… logged in for a nose… practically dead… back to reddit I go.. at least its alive and well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    A large amount of the Irish section of Reddit is made up of Newspaper headlines, The Irish Times says this, The Independent says that, and somebody minor says this or the other.

    I wonder if PR companies and other types that are paid to do it are feeding the Irish section of the Irish Reddit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,395 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I think the main Irish sub on Reddit is useless really, only good for a quick flick through the headlines. Boards is better, but boards is being left to rot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,149 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The actual papers are posting half the time. Sunday Times in particular



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭touts


    It's largely down to the moderators there. They let all sort of slop be posted as long as it adheres to their political objectives. The same newspaper articles get posted over and over and over in clear Karma farming sometimes by the moderators themselves. And many of those moderators aren't even based in Ireland and there is an increasingly right wing American bias in there. I know a few lads who have been banned for calling them out on it. I still lurk there because among all the toxicity you can pick up some good information but I gave up posting on it because it's a little clique dominated by a few who aren't even Irish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    It’s quieter on boards, so at least there is time to breathe on boards. Even though it is in serious decline.


    For me Reddit (when redirected there on an internet search like you do) seems to be a lot of youngsters, and low brow stuff

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Alfaguy


    Everybody says regular online forums - such as boards have had their day but I must say since I was recently Thatchered from that other place I have been pleasantly surprised at the vibrancy of Boards. I must admit I had not been a frequent contributor or viewer prior to the said thatchering but the sheer breath of subjects and the willingness to allow people to speak their mind within reason is very refreshing. So things like Trump, the Iran war and other controversial subjects can be discussed without the sky falling down. Great and thanks to whoever is working on this behind the scenes.

    Reddit does nothing for me as subjects rarely get explored in any depth. Even the car section (my main interest) is a little flat. People ask questions but nobody answers them.

    Alfaowners.com my other online forum is pretty good and diverse but heavily UK based.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    I use reddit nearly every day but generally ignore the Irish section



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    I had another look at the Irish Reddit, as well as the News Papers,

    It is unions and social policy types, obviously what ever report they are circulating isn't getting enough traction not pressuring the government enough try posting it in social media.

    Government advisors use to be active at this as well.



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