Fuel Protest (Read MOD NOTE on first post)

Anyone see an RIP.ie notice for the protestor who supposedly died?

They’re all up in arms over it and using it to further their agenda. Haven’t heard anything more about it.

A guy in Warwickshire is reported to have died, and this is being used by the likes of Duffy to call for the government to be abolished, they all have blood on their hands etc etc etc.

I'd ask how they could stoop so low, but Duffy is the guy that wanted a teenage girl to be raped, so...

Thought this too.

At the time of the blockades, petrol prices in Europe were more expensive in the following places: Germany, Netherlands, France, Greece, Finland and Denmark.

Where were any of them blockading?

Particularly Greece, with a minimum wage of 900quid a month, which has petrol at 2.10 per litre currently.

I mean...Ireland is bad for a lot of things, but we're at worse, bang average for fuel prices. Below other countries with similar income levels.

You have people quoting "cheap" prices in Spain, Hungary etc. But after salary and purchasing power parity is taken I to account, it's all very much the same.

I haven't seen any other countries in the EU kick off as much yet.

So going forward, when (not if) prices are higher or there's scarcity issues, will there be more self sabotage over something that's a global issue?

To see that even the French. -The famous, yellow vest, strike loving, flight and train cancellations at the drop of a hat- haven't piped up yet, is staying something.

This has now taken on legs of its own, with all sorts jumping on. And when prices rise or fuel becomes scarce, they'll be out again, to save face.

And sure now John Dallon, one of the original organisers has said "I have no control over it"

Farcical. An admission that other groups and people with vested interests have jumped in. And now that it's gone awry, he washes his hands of it.

He and others were in it for the farmers and hauliers. Fair enough. But the way it was done, the "we're all together" bollocks. He's running for the hills now, admitted himself. Having created something now that others have come upon, and will be pushing for at the drop of a hat.

As above a guy in England whose pic was posted by West midlands police looking for a missing person has somehow become a protester who took his own life.

There are some nefarious actors at play here to come up with such vile disinformation.

Speaking of thuggery, it's nice to see some on the left prepared to call it out. No doubt a strong statement will soon follow from the leader of the main opposition party. 😁

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/s ... 12291.html

Soc Dems lodge formal complaint as Helen McEntee accuses Independent Ireland TDs of misogyny and ‘barking down’ female colleagues

OTOH, there was a crowd out at a Cork courthouse to cheer some dude charged with going bananas with a tractor and slurry tank. Funny (scary?) little country we live in.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/c ... 65811.html

yeah pretty ridiculous in Midleton, about 100 people showed up to cheer on the agri muppet who refused to stop at multiple Garda checkpoints in his tractor with full slurry tank heading towards whitegate.

It’s the usual , ah he’s a lovely lad localisation bullshit that poisons this country. I’m sure there was plenty of women and babies that ended up in the laundries or worse with that twisted logic.
let him go to jail ta **** or at a minimum, or be off the road for a few years with a decent fine. Absolute clown and there is no way any normal citizen of the state can support that

The point of the carbon tax is to increase the cost of fuel such that people will be incentivised to use more sustainable fuels or modes of transport

In that sense it doesn't matter where the tax money goes after it's collected

Selfish bastards? C*nts?

These are the same people who after Storm Owyn, the heavy snow of Jan 2025, The beast from the east, Floods, etc… used their tractors to clear roads of snow, blockages and fallen trees. Brought people through flooded roads to appointments, get shopping, etc…

All while the state did feck all.

My how some folk have very short memories indeed.

Oh the irony.

As do the Army for many decades now. Under ATCA. And no farmers and hauliers whinged and shrieked that the Army was being called out on them. But when they perform the exact same role, this time to the civil power and not the civil authority, under ATCP, the vast majority of softboy bully blockaders lose their minds; and the Opposition who should know better at a moment of peril for the State, proceed to tar the longtime agreed mechanisms with the same brush...

Most of those TDs and Senators being thus disingenuous, making hay off of a powderkeg situation with guaranteed external interference mixed in, but indeed more than a handful genuinely as thick as a bucket of rocks.

Oh the irony indeed. 😏

Whatever the Healy Raes eat down in Kerry seems to produce a wealth of planks.

He was the right man for forestry no doubt.

As it currently stands about 75% of the carbon tax goes on grants for retrofitting and sustainable transport to individuals who could probably afford the products without grants.

So it is just another tax on the have nots?

Hardly what you would call progessive.

Seems like some of the low life thugs who targeted individual Gardai with online threats are going to get their justice.

I never called it progressive. Progressive taxation, that is to say a tax on somebodies ability to pay, is not what the carbon tax is. Some argue that because the other 25% goes towards the free retrofitting of houses for the lower paid etc that it is progressive but as nice and all as that is it's technically not the definition of progressive taxation

In 2025 the carbon tax brought in €1.176bn and we have about 2m cars on our road. That's a cheque of €588 for every road user, regardless of the fuel you fill your car with, to spend however you want. Is that not better than the current deal?