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Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭DXR


    My IPTV sub costs €100 per year, it's delivered via a proxy server, so no isp blocks, which I know a few mates get when an English Premier League match is on (different supplier to me), resulting in them needing to use vpns for the duration of the match(es) I get around the blocks.

    Now to be fair, it used to be €85 per year, but they recently started charging for Access to the proxy which was £1stg per month, so when you factor that in, it's now €100 per year, or less than ,€2 per week.

    Included also is more than 12k , yes that's 12... THOUSAND movies and I think 3.5k box sets.

    It's phenomenal value to be fair, and the service is seldom down, in the last 7 years I think there's been about 4 "hiccups" that never last anymore than 12hrs (these are serious hiccups in referring to) it can be down for 10/15 mins every few months for maintenance, but it's usually very early in the morning so you wouldn't even notice.

    Post edited by DXR on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Honestly it’s only a trial month for me to see the quality of the stream and I’m still unsure to go with it next season.

    Have Now for slightly less with full sport and entertainment. So to be fair I’m delighted I got it working and know it’s a backup if any promos come up. Swaying towards Now tbh but we’ll see I suppose

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭dubrov


    I can't imagine any IPTV service that would be delivered without a proxy. Proxy servers can be blocked just like any other. Your provider just hasn't come to the attention of the authorities yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭DXR


    No they have, hence why they introduced the proxy.

    It was a regular enough occurrence last year for a few weeks that once a match kicked off, everything was basically blue circle spinning, no matter if it was live TV, or movie or series, and there was no getting around it unless you turned on a VPN. The minute the match was over, everything came back though.

    Funny thing is, it wasn't universal across the board, ie sky broadband users and Virgin (both TV providers in their own right) didn't bother blocking, but VF Ireland, Eir and a few others did.

    The crowd I'm with went offline pretty much for a full day of about 7hrs to sort this proxy server thing, and low and behold they got around the blocks, and been like that ever since, touch wood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭dubrov


    I'd say they have setup separate proxy servers for every 100 or so accounts. That way if sky sign up and identify one, they will only block that server rather than taking out the whole lot.

    The game of cat and mouse continues



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    What is the best method of payment for that type of service? I saw on the thread earlier people who use Revolut for services in Ireland being described as idiots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭dubrov


    Unless you mine your own bitcoins, all payment methods are traceable but some involve more effort to identify the payer than others.

    If they do go after buyers (extremely doubtful) they will start with the low hanging fruit, i.e. those who paid directly from their bank account



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,449 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Phew, good job I payed by postal order.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭DXR


    Yea I'm not sure exactly what the logistics are in the background to be honest, every now and then you'll get an "update" via a telegram channel I subscribe to, that informs users of planned maintenance, or if a server is offline etc.

    I'm only an end user, and it'll make sod all of a difference me complaining, but if sky changed their business model, made subs relatively affordable that it wasn't worthwhile trying to bypass them, these IPTV lads wouldn't exist.

    I'm a casual EPL guy, I've no "team" as such, but I'll occasionally watch games when they're on, but a mate was telling me, if he wanted to watch "his team" play in every game, across multiple completions he would have to fork out close to €120 a month.

    That's scandalous in my opinion, no wonder there's a black market for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Sport on today

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    Need anything else from the world of Sport just holler

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    but a mate was telling me, if he wanted to watch "his team" play in every game, across multiple completions he would have to fork out close to €120 a month.

    Well your mate is lying to you.

    You cannot legally watch every EPL game a team plays in Ireland or the UK, it's impossible, the rights packages don't work that way.

    As for the €120 a month, that's BS, not only for the fact that it's for something that doesn't exist but for the fact that you can get all games that are broadcast on Sky, TNT and Premier Sports for €27 a month on NOW as a poster pointed out yesterday.

    And every other game your team will be playing be it in Europe or in the FA Cup if not on the above pay channels will be FTA on BBC or ITV or free from RTE or Virgin on Saoirview.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭Sn@kebite


    @dxhound2005

    Normally you use crypto or find someone who has it. Then pay them. Normally i buy a sub with crypto and my mates rev me or cash, then we split the streams up.

    I did it with sky NOW, but theyre still expensive and got greedy reducing streams to 2 on boost HD, and needing uhd boost for 3 streams. but I use iptv now its like 36eur a year for every station you can get. Its always greed why I leave, same with netflix. I left the legit streams because of their greed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭jj880


    I'll ask for him.

    Dx wants to know how to split up his iptv streams 😂

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,925 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Speaking of clampdowns surprised to find the number of downloader/unlinked codes readily available on youtube (or certainly in my suggestions 😂) , within seconds you can get all the British and American premium sport channels, tv and movies that cost nothing and a sizeable number work a treat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭Sn@kebite


    I think dx wants to buy a sub to iptv or a dodgy box. maybe (s)he can build up the courage to dm me?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭fish fingers


    I use skrill on the chinese site that i purchase from. Theres some really good free apps out there too which if you only need soccer are very handy, and no im not saying it here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Tonight’s Game across the globe

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    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Tonight in the CL

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    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The message at the bottom has changed? On previous ones it was Please support the listings by subscribing to the channels using the QR code.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭longrunn


    Amazing how someone can be so confidently incorrect. You can go into a phone shop and pick up a pre-pay SIM without showing ID or signing any forms. I bought a Nokia n110 with a lycamobile pre-pay SIM for 50 quid cash just a few months ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭irishgeo


    hmm?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭WoopWooWoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭longrunn


    Is that purchasing online? I didn't have to do that in store and it worked absolutely fine. And just for a second opinion, here's a quick AI search:

    Generally speaking, no, you do not need to register personal details or show ID to buy a standard Pay-As-You-Go (PAYG) SIM card in a physical store in Ireland.

    Unlike many other European countries, Ireland does not currently have a mandatory "SIM registration" law. You can walk into a supermarket (like Tesco or SuperValu), a newsagent, or a dedicated mobile shop and buy a SIM pack for cash or card without handing over your name or passport.

    The Nuances

    While the law doesn't require it, there are a few scenarios where you will need to provide details:

    • Buying Online: If you order a SIM to be posted to you, the provider naturally needs your name and address.
    • Porting a Number: If you want to keep your old phone number and "move" it to a new network, you have to register the SIM with your personal details to facilitate the transfer.
    • Digital-Only Brands: Low-cost "online-only" providers like GoMo or 48 require registration and a payment card linked to an account during the signup process.
    • eSIMs: These usually require an email address and an account setup to receive the activation QR code.
    • Official Network Stores: While not legally required for PAYG, staff in "branded" stores (like Vodafone or Three) might ask if you’d like to register the SIM for security purposes (e.g., so you can get a replacement if the phone is stolen). You can usually decline this.

    Bottom line: If you want total anonymity, just pick up a physical SIM pack from a supermarket shelf or a generic phone repair shop. It's a "plug and play" situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    CL Tonight

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    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Games on tonight

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    Enjoy

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,898 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Spent the last few days securing a site against a botnet attack that was trying to download webpages. There were 79,002 IP addresses involved and most of them were on ISPs (all over the world). Less than 100 appeared to be Irish ISP IPs. It would not be unsurprising if some of them were using compromised low-end Android devices. Best to buy reputable devices.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,007 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Just as likely they are compromised out of support operating systems - there's hundreds of pre Win7 machines out there still on the internet.

    https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/ireland/Accessed

    Who really knows though - I would have assumed with all of the low end android boxes out there in ireland at this point you'd have far more than 100 involved in botnets, maybe they are involved in others or perhaps as you say, its worth investing in a better form of android box.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,898 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It was a webscaper botnet. Those AI companies need a lot of data and many websites have blocked the more "ethical" AI companies trhough the robots.txt file. The ones with no ethics use datacentres (particularly China/Singapore and also Amazonaws) and compromised mobile PCs nd other devices on ISPs. There would probably be Android boxes among them that were shipped in a compromised state. The number of Irish IPs was based on a quick look at the list. It may be that many of the Irish dodgyboxes are not low-end Android devices though the out of support operating systems may be a factor.It is one thing for the journalists in the Irish media to write about botnets and compromised devices. It is quite another to see these botnets in action. They may have picked up the story about the the Kimwolf botnet from this thread. There was a very good analysis of compromised low-end Android boxes linked in that Krebs On Security article on that botnet.

    Regards…jmcc



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