Fuel Protest (Read MOD NOTE on first post)

Germany sector is much different. It's not just farming either.

A huge amount of their freight is by train.

Close to 50%, in Ireland it is below 1%.

It really is an apple and anvils comparison.

Yes Publish every payment .

I wouldn’t generally care how much the people across the road get in social welfare , but if they have been drawing it down for three generations while others have been breaking their asses at work , maybe it’s time we asked ?
Most public sector salary scales are available from multiple sources . Once you know what position they hold ( Google )and the approximate length of time that they have held the job , you can go close enough to working out the salary .
As examples, the above are small beer .

The overall spend is half a billion a week

Don’t publicise that practice or H&S will mandate the installation of tachographs on all such vehicles!

Look at tit another way, your 151 Octavio would be even more efficient and powerful if it didn’t have all the mandated modern emissions systems built in

Not sure if you remember the flooding around Kerry there a few years ago? The Healy-Raes organised sandbags for the families in low lying areas. A fella I used to work with said he was left waiting by the official council phone number, the boys sorted him in the space of 20 minutes

That's how they get voted in, they get their name associated with things like disaster relief in their constituency and then do f**k all for the rest of the country.

It would be even more powerful again with an electric motor and a battery and would pass all of those pesky emissions mandates that are keeping cancer particles out of your lungs

I wonder what the protesters will do when fuel rationing arrives.

Some lads that are fairly big operators will remove the loom once warranty period is up, and fit a loom for the same machine that operates outside the eu bypassing all the sensors and add-ons.

Of course what going out the pipe will not be as clean but a lot less downtime fixing new tech added to engines in late years.

Comparing cars to large tractors or harvesters is like apples and oranges.

Yes smaller farmer tractors have gone like cars with 3 or 4 pot engines putting out good hp with great efficiency, but higher hp you need that older type 6 pot engine for the torque, especially at lower revs, some bigger machinery are burning 15-20 gallons of diesel per hour

Sorry I wasn’t referring to the HR issue but the segway from new ICE technologies to EVs.

No, their aims are unlikely to align. However, the farmers, truckers, hauliers etc. will be fighting their corner and championing their right to cause disruption, including up to and including blockading the fuel depots/blocking the motorways as a means of protest, right?…………………….Right!!!?!?

Bingo. I asked the exact same question earlier in the week and have been met with nothing but radio silence.

What pisses me off big time is the vitriol that has been piled on those that protested and their all being tarred with the same brush .Everyone driving a tractor unit , a tractor or a bus is now; Right wing, a thicko ,thick as pig sh.t etc etc etc. Name your most egregious insult.

First time, eh?

Happens to the best of bus, bud. At one point in time about 10 years ago I was a cyclist, student, civil servant from Dublin who was also an Audi driver and a landlord. Used to get it in the neck every which way I turned. Don't worry, we all do it. Even yourself. Here's you making disparaging, generalised remarks about our indigenous, ethnic sulky racers. Bit of a dig at the traders on Moore St, while we're at it.

Tell me again about being tarred with the same brush……

Anyway, these kind of events are defined by their leaders. If you want people to row in behind you, you better make sure your ducks are all in a row, including vetting whoever is leading your protest. Would you march on the Dáil if Larry Murphy was the Grand Marshall? Or would you be afraid of being associated with a kidnapper/rapist/attempted murderer? What if he wasn't convicted and was just cracking jokes about raping someone? What about an animal abuser and tax dodger, would you join his cause? Because you kinda already did, TBH.

If you don't want these chucklefcuks to be the face of your protest then DO NOT LET THEM BE THE FACE OF YOUR PROTEST. It's really that simple. There are more of you than them. Tell them to GTFO and put someone else in charge or suffer the consequences of your own inaction. If I was protesting anything and the leaders started belting out all manner of guff, I'd fight tooth and nail to make sure everyone was certain that his views weren't representative of mine/the majority.

How does the German saying go?…."if there's a Nazi at the table and ten others are sitting at the table talking to him, what you've got is eleven Nazis"

I prefer the Irish one, pardon the spelling……..An té a luíonn le madraí, eiroidh sé le dearnaid.

I posted about this earlier today:

Ireland imports 100% of its oil, primarily sourcing crude and refined products from the UK, Norway, and increasingly from North/West Africa and the US.

So it looks like we dont have much direct exposure to whats going on in the strait of hormuz or Iran war. Our oil doesnt come from there.

However what you say here is interesting, had not thought of that:

"Someone seems to have stopped the supply of 20 percent of the worlds oil capacity which I'm hearing has knock on effects to the procurement of all the other worldly sources and people scramble to buy product elsewhere."