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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭jommer01


    All hail Clare and their nobility! Did you not hear Lohan moaning over an albeit bizarre black card decision at the weekend? Poor "Clare again" he said. And that after a win.

    I don't even have a problem with him highlighting it btw but don't give me this "in Clare we just get on with it" rubbish.

    Hurling has a bit of a refereeing problem and it's certainly not just the referees are to blame. There's too much randomness in refereeing both within games and even more so from game to game, league to championship etc. The result is moaning and whataboutery on all sides. Everyone wants to see the game flow making it completely impossible to enforce the rules as they are so I don't really know what the solution is.

    The new football rules can make hurling look very stop start now as a spectacle. I don't have the stat but I'd say the ball in play time was very low in the 1A final at the weekend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭jommer01


    A rule change is the only answer. I actually think the overhead handpass is almost never a throw and the striking action is more distinguishsble. They still get called randomly though.

    I think a clash ball is possibly a better and fairer punishment as well with a free being too punitive for borderline calls. But then most people would rather see fewer and not more rucks in hurling!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭thamus doku


    I don’t like the throwing and all teams do it.
    but if you want to clamp down heavy on the throw ball you will need to bring in a rule like hand pass off your Hurley all you will get is players being swarmed in possession and not being able to move the ball and that is actually for me a worse result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭caddy16


    Exactly, people complaining and no realistic alternatives identified. Any rule changes suggested will have an even more negative an impact as you outlined.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,242 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    And? Sure it might teach a lad to avoid contact then. Its par for the course in football that a player gets swarmed for overdoing it with the ball (after opposition set a trap), but the world hasn't caved in. In fact the rule changes have revolutionised the game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,857 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ffs every single hurling thread. Do ye ever get tired of saying the same sht over and over and over again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭thamus doku


    Anyone who has played hurling knows that it is very easy especially in the modern game to swarm players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    Whenever potential rule changes like this are discussed, people give their predictions on the potential negative effects of the rule which is fair enough, but they often seem to assume that the rule change will be introduced and nothing else will change.

    For example the rule change would/could be accompanied by another rule change or at least a clampdown on the application of another rule, to facilitate it. For example a lot of what is happening when a player is "bottled up" at the moment is not within the rules, tightening up on some of this stuff might make things easier for the player in possession.

    Also players will adapt, they won't necessary keep playing the exact same way if there is more chance of losing possession due to the rule change, they may be less likely to bring the ball into to contact for example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Davys Fits


    There was a trial a few years back on the handpass off the hurley and it was clear that players tried to avoid contact knowing that there was no easy overhead or under hand throw like pass available to him. No player in possession deserves to throw a ball away when bottled up, it makes a mockery of the skills of our game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Agree 100%. Often when a player is bottled up he is in truth being fouled by 2 or 3 players simultaneously. This leads to 50% of the worst throws as the guy can do little else



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,084 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    I've said it before, all technical fouls should be indirect frees. Then you'll see the refs pull for more foul handpassing as its not giving a team a score. If he gets it wrong its not as big a deal. It also means more time for ball in play which is what we all want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,027 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Thats fair enough. I do appreciate the clarity so fair play too you.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Very good idea, indirect frees. Fine in the backs as will go upfield but what if you get an indirect free in the full forward line, will probably end up going backwards like football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,180 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    I wouldn't actually be in favor of a rule change or at least a change in how to perform a handpass. I think it is a cop out because of a refusal to implement the rules as they stand.

    Footballs problem wasn't the implementation of the rules, it was how the game was played under the old rules.

    That being said, I do like the indirect free idea above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Firstsub


    I do think that Limerick are more skilful than other teams. As such, they would benifit most if a definite striking action of a handpass was imposed. It takes no skill to throw the ball. The GAA need to grow a pair of balls



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Charlie69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Could give it as a direct free if inside the 21



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,857 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It seems the GAA are giving serious thought to holding next years 1A final in Limerick the weekend of the Ryder Cup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Firstsub


    Ruling out 2 consecutive handpasses would be an easy rule to implement.

    Possibly ruling out more than 2 or 3 players from each team joining a ruck might cut down on the duration of these? Maybe make an exception if you are inside the 13 metre line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 onliner


    The Ryder cup is on in September



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,752 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭Martin567


    Sounds like nonsense.

    The group stages of the League finishes at end of March. Will they really put the final on hold for 6 months?

    Intercounty season finishes in July and players then go back to the clubs. How can the county teams be ready to play again two months later?

    Finally, play in the golf will run from 8am to 6pm on Friday & Saturday and 11am to 5:30pm on Sunday. Only time available not to clash would be under lights on Saturday evening.

    How long would the two teams need to prepare for this and how would it impact on club games?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    Its worth a try i think. Why not? There's no negatives i can think of bar club championship in 2 counties being on hold for that weekend.

    Gaa always get stick for being stuck inthe past or not being innovative. I applaud them for the idea alone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,857 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I don't think it will happen but I thought it was interesting that it is being mentioned.

    Will probably get watered down to a Railway Cup or something. Although the GAA might not want something that won't draw a substantial crowd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Then they may forget it, anything after the all Ireland final is going to be a total after thought, to fans and players. Would be a Mickey mouse game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Iecrawfc


    Just put on a limerick county senior championship game, Doon vs Na Piarsigh would be better than any watered down inter county league game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,263 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    For the teams involved, it would be seen as a type of exhibition game outside of the normal inter-county season. But it can still be marketed as a "proper" game.

    What harm, I'd be happy enough for them to try it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,180 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Munster championship selection vs Leinster championship selection with a decent prize for the winning team (sponsored by J.P).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,857 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Bring them all to a stage if the Ryder Cup and I'm sure plenty of player will sign up. Charge a token fee for the tickets to get people in the door. Still might end up empty though.

    Just reading now that the proposal is for the Tuesday before the Ryder Cup which sounds kinda daft.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,752 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




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