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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Maybe so but either way it’s the act of someone without the balls to stand over what they believe themselves.

    Whether I would agree or disagree with someone is irrelevant to the fact that I will always admire people who stand by what they believe in. He wasn’t able to do that so my admiration for him would be zero. Contrast him to Carol Nolan who was kicked out of Sinn Fein because she wouldn’t go against what she believed in herself for the abortion referendum. That’s something I would admire and give credit to someone for and as I said whether I agreed or disagreed with her view is irrelevant, she stood by her belief and didn’t back down because she wanted to keep anyone else happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    you could say that about any government in the history of the state.

    People’s default opinion is that the government aren’t doing enough no matter what’s possible or not.

    Personally I respect the person that tells me it can’t be done than the lad that promises the sun moon and stars but delivers nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭almostover


    I agree with you. MHR ran at the first sign of trouble. Saved his own behind rather than continue the work he was given the mandate to do by his voters.

    He will probably never get the change again to influence the direction of Irish politics. Will never be trusted to be in government again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭naughto


    so your allright with the government taxing the sh1te out of the fuel? if there wasn't any protest would the government have done anything,not a hope in hell they would have.

    i just hope when election time comes around every one remembers what they did an who supported them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    A crisis is still a crisis regardless who highjacks the cause. Even before and during this crisis we had a fairly fair level barometer of fuel costs compared to other well developed nations in the eu. Using Germany as the barmoeter some would still say our government would have done nothing worthwhile. Where that leaves us regarding the genuine cause im still unsure, businessmen are still the same moral pontificators that they have always been, criminals dont require the same pontificating efforts because their demographic have lived a different way of life then anyone who wants to participate in democracy ever has. I do hope we are best placed of all to survive the next few months if its required



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    I handed in my notice and my manager has barely spoke to me since.. 10 weeks of a notice period has been a long haul....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Be hard stick this shower until 2029.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭148multi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Postdriver


    I would be of the thinking the people of Ireland are his boss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭dmakc


    TDs getting "candid" photos on the phone has to be one of the more cringe worthy social media enablings. MM had one today to Canada in between all the fireworks. I think Helen had one before and the same photo showed the phone was plugged out



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭Dupont


    has anyone bought anything off that Seamus lad from Wicklow calf company. He’s some man to talk, not sure how true it all is. Seen a video and he said in 2024/25 he sold on 70 thousand calfs each year. Would that be right ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,008 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I didnt see that, that shows another side to him alright.

    He was adamant that there was no such ultimatum if Danny voted against.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭older by the day


    I myself believe we have the right government but the wrong leadership.

    I would rather face a recession with these, rather than the left.

    Even today, martin and Harris, still did not get the message that businesses are closing because of high costs. They kept on about blockades but still deny the reasons behind them.

    I was chatting to a plumber friend, there are a few big housing projects being called off, its not a made up thing. You can't really give a price for work a few months ahead, with the inflation on products



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,856 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    What we really need is no more Ff/fg coalitions. They really need to be in opposition to each other and both parties need new leadership too in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭50HX


    A little over 6 months ago the RTE bossman said no RTE employees should be on over 250k.

    Today its emerging Patrick o Donovan has approved a 25k increase to Bakhurst salary which all in with base salaray,pension & allowances will bring him to 364k.

    Lets see the backlash to this......if any



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭White Clover


    His boss is the electorate. He told the chief whip that he was voting no confidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Rubbish. No need for them inflammatory remarks. It makes you look bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 995 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    Does anyone know exactly what the the "package of measures" will do for green diesel prices? I haven't seen it in any media to know. But surely it has to be more than a 2.4c/l reduction and it at roughly €1.60/l. That'll mean for me instead of paying €560 to fill the tractor it'll now be only €552. Farming is a love for me but I'll divorce that love soon with these prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,944 ✭✭✭emaherx


    We are sort of stuck with the way the country is mostly stuck between 3 major parties. The only real viable alternative involves SF but who will align themselves with them? And it could be political suicide for SF to join FF or FG as an underdog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,064 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    FF/FG are essentially one party now with those within expecting a merger sooner or later. It will be difficult going forward from that to form a government without them.

    At the end of the day the majority of people are just ordinary balanced folk and so centralist parties will be attractive come election time.

    Not saying they get everything right but the progress is still moving forward for the country as a whole raising standards for everyone.

    A child born now gets

    2 years free preschool

    Free schoolbooks for life

    Free GP which has been extending regularly so possibly free during school years

    Free hot school meals (massive for the least well off in society)


    just an example of massive progress for wider society to help the less well off improve their chances of better education and a better life, none of these existed just 20 years ago.


    Some of the biggest mistakes are things like the Corrib gas field. This should have been a partnership approach with private enterprise so we could build a national capability to extract our own energy

    The children’s hospital contract debacle shows we need to tighten these contracts up considerably with real repercussions for contractors messing about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,364 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Does the free gp care make gp practices busier? Do people go when they dont really need to go because it's free.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,822 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    The country has never been so well off.

    Eaten bread soon forgotten spring to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,064 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Had EarPods on there so maybe I missed it. Lady speaking on 8am news said the fuel support package in place by the government is largest across Europe, I’m 90% sure that’s what she said (calves were bawling)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,404 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    I voted FG last time round, primarily because there was a local FG man in the election. He didn't make it and remains a councillor who is bettering the home village bit by bit. But the election really should be about national things and what are candidates going to do nationally and internationally. FF/FG have ruined and subsequently rebuilt the country (I'm talking about the economy here) over the last 2 decades to a point where we're doing so well our results are excluded from EU wide datasets. We're awash with cash. Our standard of living, life expectancy, etc is among the best in the world. I'd be wary of voting in some populist and their magic money tree who pander to the useless for support.

    I think the next time an election comes around I'll see who/what is going to tackle the waste. Who will tackle the myriad of NGOs and those who get financed by the government and then use that money to make life harder for sections of society despite it being the opposite of what the government want to do (think of An Taisce here and all the bolloxing they do around NAP, derogation, etc). We're a social welfare state at this point and that needs to be reigned in too. And wasting money on bolloxing needs to stop across the board.

    And alongside all of that, people need to harden the **** up. When something goes a bit awry it's wall to wall whinging by a vocal cohort over the government not doing enough of this that and the other. Most people on here have got to where they are through hard work and determination. Those are skills we're quickly losing in favour of pampered layabouts expecting, and being told by many, that they are "entitled" to the world and it's mother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭DBK1


    My thoughts exactly as well on everything you’ve said there.

    I’d be friendly with a few contractors on the construction side and they’re all seeing a serious slow down in demand for work the last few months from both one off houses and developers.

    It’s very hard for a developer to put a price on building a block of houses now when €30-€40k of an average increase per house has happened in the last few weeks alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭DBK1


    The fine details haven’t come out yet but it appears you will also be eligible to get a 20 cent/litre rebate on all diesel you bought between March and July 2025 as a form of assistance towards buying diesel for this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,404 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    How does that help people who fill once a year when the tanks are low and use the majority in that period?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I suppose it doesn’t but would there be many that category and if there is they must be using a fairly small volume of diesel so the rebate would be minimal anyway?

    The majority of farmers would have a 1,000 - 1,500 litre tank and if that does them for a whole year then they’re obviously not very heavy users of diesel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,404 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Just thinking of ourselves really. We usually load up before the budget but we'd about 800 liters left last October so decided against it as we wouldn't need a huge pile over the winter. Now that the slurry is out and the early spring work is done, tanks will need refilling before the summer and we hit into the silage. And that will mean about an order of 2000l. Which will be mostly used between May and August as we make bales, deliver them around and get more slurry out (plus drainage work will burn a chunk). I'd expect to be gone fairly low before the budget again.

    Going by that, unless you buy in the period March-July 25, you can go whistle for any rebate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭dmakc


    I'm still trying to make sense of the carbon rebate, but there will be a 20c/l payment based on your 2025 diesel usage. I believe through revenue.ie



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