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Fuel protest about prices

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rayman10


    Foynes and Galway have no leverage left after their comrades in Whitegate walk away. There's enough fuel coming through now.

    Rosslare is the only bit of leverage they have left so I'd expect that to be hit early tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    I suspect the rosslare lads will be feeling the cold overnight and call it a day 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Basically only the circus at O’Connell street left, guards need to just tear gas the place



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,706 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    No need, in fighting will begin amongst the 2 disparate groups, far right and anti everything wasters on one side, the vehicle owners on the other, the latter sensing things will get a little sketchy and gtf out of there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭techman1


    I think the breaking of the blockade at whitegate refinery has stopped the fuel panic. Who knew before all this how vital a piece of infrastructure this ageing oil refinery was?

    In the age of AI and food deliveries at the touch of a smart phone an old 1950s oil refinery is still of crucial national importance.

    But sure i suppose we just went back around the moon again for the first time in over 50 years using basically the same technology we did all those years ago. We were slso relieved that we were still able to do it again but this time we had almost a working toilet, i suppose thats progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,932 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    well it's certainly not more right wing that's for sure.

    everything the hard right wing touches turns to ****.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rayman10


    Hit them at first light, if there's anybody left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Is the government propaganda machine in this thread. By jesus



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Nowhere in my post did I advocate for “hard right” governance.

    To be more specific, what Ireland needs is a substantial reining in of fiscal waste and a more sensible approach to Government expenditure. The current profligate spending is out of control and certain cohorts of society (one topical example is those who use a lot of diesel in the course of their business) are paying an excessive amount of tax to fund the out of control Goverment spending

    (I am aware that other European countries have higher diesel prices but European countries are not exactly beacons of popular Government support or well managed economies either).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “The reality is the vast vast majority of people agree with what they protesting about, because it effects almost everyone.”

    Nonsense-not even the protesters know what they’re protesting about - the ones I’ve seen interviewed on TV News are just ranting - if people think 30c on a litre of fuel is the height of challenging times, they’re in for one fcking wake up call in the coming months and years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Running for the hills when they saw the might of the public order unit down in Cork. F*cking great viewing today.

    The O'Connell Street lads will stay a while.

    Guarantee they'd bolt if they heard Revenue was going to start dipping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭DubLad69


    With the fuel back flowing, I assume that there is no risk now to schools opening on Monday?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭combat14


    more protests planned for tomorrow all across the country apparently

    message from protest group below:

    @🦋 Freedom 🦋:🇮🇪 THERE WILL BE A NATIONWIDE PEACEFUL FUEL PROTEST ON SUNDAY 12TH APRIL 🇮🇪
    We will be gathering in towns and counties right across Ireland for a peaceful nationwide protest.
    Please find your county and meeting location below:
    • Carlow — Carlow
    • Cavan — Cavan
    • Clare — Ennis
    • Cork — Cork
    • Donegal — Letterkenny
    • Dublin — Dublin
    • Galway — Galway
    • Kerry — Tralee
    • Kildare — Naas
    • Kilkenny — Kilkenny
    • Laois — Portlaoise
    • Leitrim — Carrick-on-Shannon
    • Limerick — Limerick
    • Longford — Longford
    • Louth — Dundalk
    • Mayo — Castlebar
    • Meath — Navan
    • Monaghan — Monaghan
    • Offaly — Tullamore
    • Roscommon — Roscommon
    • Sligo — Sligo
    • Tipperary — Clonmel / Nenagh
    • Waterford — Waterford
    • Westmeath — Mullingar
    • Wexford — Wexford
    • Wicklow — Wicklow / Bray
    We are asking trucks, tractors, and larger vehicles to assemble safely on the outskirts of the towns and villages, where supporters can then walk peacefully into the main streets and town centres carrying Irish flags and signage in a united show of support.
    We encourage people right across the country to join on foot, with family, friends, local communities, and working people standing together.
    We also encourage local musicians and entertainers to come along and help make a day of it, bringing unity, community spirit, and support to people in their own local areas.
    This has always been a peaceful protest, and all we want is for our government to listen to the people. This movement is growing stronger every day, and we are not backing down.
    Counties are assembling from 11:00 a.m. at safe outskirts meeting points before walking peacefully into each town.
    PLEASE SHARE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rayman10


    They are starting to drift away. Risky leaving a valuable tractor there overnight.

    A rough night's sleep if you decide to stay.

    Nowhere to go to the toilet.

    No momentum, no support, comrades crushed in Cork.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,392 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Nope. Just ordinary people who are pissed off at a small group of tax-dodging, rape-glorifying, drink-driving rag tags holding up our lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,706 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Is this the group set up by one of your far right brethren that has gone through a number of name changes to try pick up all sorts of stragglers?

    "Carry an Irish flag", would you **** off with yourselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,300 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Should be fine. This has been a small taste of where we could be in a few weeks if the Iran war talks don't work out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    The protest is effectively over anyone with sense should pack up and go home and they might avoid the penalty points.

    I've been thinking about the winners and losers here as well as the short, medium and long term fallout. IRHA and IFA have to be the big winners, nailed on that they get their demands. I think that's it for that side. Guards did well too when they eventually got the finger out.

    Losers. Protesters. Did not achieve their lofty and nebulous aims unsurprisingly. Barryroe remains closed. Backed down easily in the face of the first attempt at serious opposition. Whitegate fell without a shot fired. As expected. Protesters were fully exposed to the public for what they are: a rag tag potpourri of agitators, chaos makers, ethno-nationalists, racists and facists. Political fellow travellers in Aontu and Independent Ireland also exposed as happy to court that constituency.

    Government. They were badly caught out on this. Perhaps they thought it was just a one day thing and would fizzle out but that was catastrophically wrong. Talk of the army, even just as the aid to civil power so early without deployment was an unforced error. I think they were right not to meet the self appointed leaders however. Also correct not to release details of the deal until the protest was lifted. In short, they were shown as unprepared to protect vital infrastructure and paralysed in the face of crisis.

    Fallout

    The short, medium and long term fallout is interesting here. Martin is a dead man walking but O'Callaghan is damaged too. Martin won't survive to see the EU presidency imo.

    Medium and long term is far more interesting and the real consequence will be buried in some dry policy paper that gets 20seconds on the news. Media have been talking about the threat of extremism in Irish political discourse for a long time but there is also a large rural rump that's extremely dissatisfied with the liberal drift in recent years. How power is exercised to deal with this will be fascinating and I can't say what way it will go. The liberal position has largely held to now but it's under pressure from within and without.

    I do look forward to reading the correspondence in 30 years with how this problem was communicated externally and I wonder if informal contact was made with the EU Commission for emergency support in the event that it spiralled out of control. One might imagine an amount of schadenfreude in the other capitals as the extremism that they have experienced, fermented on Irish based US platforms comes home. More than a wry smile I'd say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rayman10


    I doubt there'll be many bothering with this nonsense.

    Rats are always the first to desert a sinking ship.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,162 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Why carry an Irish flag? What's that all about?

    Sure the Taoiseach is Irish. It's his flag but he's your enemy? ???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭jimjangles


    So is it just road haulage and farmers that are getting a so-called package?

    Everyone else will be paying max price for fuel then. Nothing to help anyone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    No, you'll be paying max price and paying for their subsidy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    We talking about protesters here?. You do realise whether you agree with the methods or not. You and I are going to pay more long term not just fuel costs to a government that wastes a lot of money. Its so easy to reduce the tax take on fuel and still have the same tax take. It diesnt take a mathematician or accountant to figure this out.

    Its worrying the government unwavering stance on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Etc


    You should organise a protest, get out on the street and block something with your car, there’s a couple of lads on Facebook that’ll help you out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭jimjangles


    Well screw that so and people going out with cups of tea and sandwiches for them.

    So much about doing it for everyone else then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,510 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    The review will state that this protest about fuel prices led by convicted criminals had the bright idea to fix the fuel problem by blockading the fuel refinery and prevent supplies of fuel from reaching the country. They blocked emergency services and fucked over half the country and in the end achieved absolutely nothing that couldn't have been achieved by nominating a sensible representative and sitting down with government for a meeting.

    History will not be kind to the morons that supported any of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rayman10


    Yes that appears to be it. Combat14 had a meltdown on here earlier when he realised all his egging on of protestors wasn't going to get anything for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,510 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Don't forget that you will be paying more than you have to due to the supply chain disruption this "protest" caused.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,625 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    And the same group will be raising their prices and the taxpayer paying for it at the markets.

    Oh wait you actually thought this mob were fighting for you?



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