Tesla Talk 2

MojoMaker · 10-04-2026 03:33PM

He's a lonely old crank that was pushed off another popular website recently - for spouting similar drivel.

pah · 10-04-2026 03:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124380248#Comment_124380248

Nothing immoral about buying a BYD then?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/byd-hungary-china-labour-watch-9.7154249

Alfaguy · 10-04-2026 05:31PM

Well if you can sleep soundly knowing your supporting Musk and his activities or do know but simply don't care so be it. Those 20,000 jobs in Germany might still exist if Musk had stuck to the car business instead of sticking his nose into US and international politics and trying to buy elections and voters. I am not in the least bit insecure about it I simply know a tyrant when I see one.

From US media;

After a 10-month run that upended the lives of hundreds of thousands of federal workers, untold millions of Americans, and millions more around the world, the “Department of Government Efficiency” appears to be dead. Reuters reported this week that, when asked about the status of DOGE, the director of the Office of Personnel Management responded, “That doesn’t exist.” He later qualified in a post on X that while DOGE “may not have centralized leadership,” its principles “remain alive and well” in the Trump government—a distinction without a difference that doesn’t make DOGE any less dead.

It’s an anticlimactic end to a period of rash destruction engineered by the world’s richest man, who was handed the keys to the U.S. government to play with at his pleasure. A possibly drug-addled Elon Musk handled the executive branch with all the diligence of a 5-year-old tending to a Barbie: a dramatic haircut here, a permanent-marker makeover there, a week or two lost in the dog’s bed. For Musk and the DOGE employees who carried out his merciless assault on the work of federal agencies, it was an exhilarating free-for-all in the halls of power. For the rest of us, it was a catastrophe whose consequences will reverberate for generations to come.

pah · 10-04-2026 05:43PM

The only thing anticlimactic is getting to the end of reading your posts lad.

...Ghost... · 10-04-2026 06:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124380791#Comment_124380791

From the real world;

After a 10-month run that upended the lives of a shít load of federal wasters, untold millions of Yanks, and millions more around the world, the “Department of Government Efficiency” appears to have done its job, saving billions and shutting down dozens of useless departments. Reuters reported this week that, when asked about the status of DOGE, the director of the Office of Personnel Management confirmed that less tax dollars were being flushed down the jax or funding criminal empires under the guise of charity.

MojoMaker · 10-04-2026 06:29PM

Last year you booked a Model Y test drive did you not @Alfaguy?

evftw · 10-04-2026 10:06PM

In general better buy an Alfa while you can before Stellantis keels over and/or cancels the brand due to the miniscule sales these days. All of the petrol heads miss the Busso arias and the GTV, personally have also a soft spot for the 164, but those times are gone now.

evftw · 10-04-2026 10:43PM

This is from the official account. So they got the approval for Holland for the FSD supervised today. Great news! I reckon it will be for HW4 only for now.

listermint · 10-04-2026 10:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124381971#Comment_124381971

Interesting getting approval at 11pm at night.

🧐🤷‍♂️

Alfaguy · 10-04-2026 10:47PM

I have made my point now so lets leave it at that. I actually think Tesla's are interesting cars so yes I did book a test drive in one to see what its like but the dealer seemed to think I would buy one so I did not want to waste their time. I was a big Tesla fan before Musk went off the rails believe it or not - it's just a pity he does not seem to care about the damage he is and has done to its brand image.

Alfaguy · 10-04-2026 10:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124381839#Comment_124381839

Well my 2017 Abarth 124 spider purchase in 2024 was originally supposed to be badged as an Alfa so in a way I sort of did. Yes Alfa looks like it's on a road to nowhere sadly. I had hoped they would release a coupe version of the Giulia Quadrifoglio which I probably would have gone for but they didn't - anyways back to topic.

evftw · 10-04-2026 11:28PM

This is Google translation from rdw.nl about how this type approval will be applief for rest of the EU outside Netherlands:

unkel · 10-04-2026 11:33PM

Of course we will have to await confirmation from the RDW, but I couldn't imagine Tesla would lie about it.

evftw · 10-04-2026 11:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124381991#Comment_124381991

We all have to individually decide how much Elmo's episodes of "off the rails" were that versus how much the media, both printed and social, implied that he went off the rails. I'm blaming an orchestrated effort and some less than stellar responses from him to the tsunami of repetitive effluent. But this is my opinion.

I can't believe that a, let's face it, a rather successful individual could be that much of a loonie. Again, totally my opinion. And personally it wouldn't matter anyway as I couldn't at the moment with clear conscious put my own money on any of the competition's cars. Especially the software side of them is of questionable quality. Most are also fragile and too mechanically complex compared to a Model 3/Y.

unkel · 10-04-2026 11:42PM

Confirmed by RDW

De RDW heeft een typegoedkeuring afgegeven voor het rijhulpsysteem van Tesla, FSD Supervised (Full Self Driving Supervised). Dit rijhulpsysteem is meer dan anderhalf jaar uitvoerig onderzocht en getest op onze testbaan en op de openbare weg. Veiligheid staat voor de RDW voorop.

https://www.rdw.nl/nieuws/2026/toelichting-rdw-op-europese-typegoedkeuring-tesla-met-voorlopige-geldigheid-in-nederland

unkel · 11-04-2026 12:01AM

The first 1000 Teslas in the Netherlands will get FSD enabled this Sunday. The owners have received emails

We have been waiting a long time for this, but it is finally happening. Not like the naysayers kept saying: never, not in my life time, not until at least a decade from now, not for several more years

Actually tomorrow. Very exciting news. Can't wait to get it on my own car.

Alfaguy · 11-04-2026 12:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382189#Comment_124382189

Anybody who viewed his whitehouse appearances could see that he is clearly a drug addict - which explains a lot of his behaviour but I am glad you are enjoying your tesla.

evftw · 11-04-2026 12:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382288#Comment_124382288

He is "out there" alright but gets lots of stuff done. I wish I had 1 percent of his drive.

listermint · 11-04-2026 12:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382275#Comment_124382275

Ireland isn't the Netherlands so why would you have it .

Also this is very different software approval than the US. They were at pains to detail that. Also this doesn't lead to full self driving cos it isn't that. The hardware won't support that.

Cyrus · 11-04-2026 07:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382400#Comment_124382400

Because other European countries will follow suit, you said this wouldn't happen listermint but it has, start of the journey of unsupervised FSD which is a good thing whichever company cracks it in the end.

listermint · 11-04-2026 09:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382619#Comment_124382619

I said it was unlikely, and it appears Tesla made some aggressive changes to their model from the US version specifically around predictability. This was a core part of the ask was that evidence of how the car made determinations in specific scenarios was visible and accessible and not LLM black box.

Either way it's a danger to the road it any of its form, it's not a good thing for road users or owners. You'll most likely be held liable in an accident and it will be an easy out for your insurance company.

Tesla does not have the hardware to support unaided driving in a safe way for road use with other vehicles.

JOL1 · 11-04-2026 10:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382189#Comment_124382189

We can all see from his tweets (X's) that he is extreme in his sponteneity on a range of issues (similar to another well know person) so I personally don't buy conspiracy theories by the media..they may just amplify the perspective rather than create it. Successful individuals or genius are not always renowned for balance and I do believe that such behaviours have damaged the brand. Having said that the developments with software and the journey towards FSD are impressive and moving ahead at a pace…

listermint · 11-04-2026 10:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382901#Comment_124382901

They're not though robotaxi is taking a stall. Theres no at a pace here outside of this assisted supervised driving they're marketing as 'full self driving' , a very apple marketing thing.

Without moving away from camera only. This is going nowhere serious. That's the reality, they're not speeding up anything under their current limitations.

JOL1 · 11-04-2026 10:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382917#Comment_124382917

I have heard your views (some of which I agree). I still think that the FSD (allbeit that driver remains in "Control") is widely impressive and a huge step forward that many will appreciate ..we all don't habve to have the same opinions.

MojoMaker · 11-04-2026 10:41AM

FSD Supervised will be plenty for now.

Great step forward and will be very beneficial to Tesla in Europe - sickening as that is to some.

listermint · 11-04-2026 10:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382976#Comment_124382976

Not expecting you to have my opinion. I was just laying out why it's not, since folks are keen to use terms like 'advancing at a pace' and 'full self driving'. When the reality is different.

listermint · 11-04-2026 10:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124382992#Comment_124382992

I'm not sickened at all. I'm just concerned for road users. We've enough distracted driving right now. Without the car also having control on top of it. With a half baked solution. It's really just dangerous.

Why that makes me 'sickened' I don't know . Nobody is winning from this approval.

Not even a future state of autonomy. Because camera can't give that .

Anyway I've detailed all this before no need to rehash the why. No one cares on here, but I'm sure they will come insurance time. It'll be Tesla's fault then 😄

MojoMaker · 11-04-2026 10:55AM

You seem to have singled yourself out there, I wasn't being specific 🤷‍♂️

listermint · 11-04-2026 11:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124383040#Comment_124383040

You were though 😘😉

MojoMaker · 11-04-2026 12:32PM

Are you the only anti-Tesla voice around here?

If so, that's genuine progress.

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