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Fuel protest about prices

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    That's an entirely baseless attack on the Army.

    They only intervene in these circumstances in aid of the civil power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    He also mentioned India and their fuel prices. Theres no cop on here in this group



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,606 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    What about my post is conspiracy based? Please be specific.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Simple facts here, first it was we want a meeting and we'll go home.

    Now they look to be getting their meeting by having the IFA etc bring them in as part of their delegations.

    Now its well we're going to keep the protests going.

    You cant negotiate with anyone who cant keep their own side of the bargain.

    Be true to your word and go home now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Lots of FFG voters rattled here.

    Living in their comfortable bubble sneering at people trying to save their jobs.

    Some Irish people have become snobs & smug tossers.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭rayman10


    They also want everything from potholes fixed to oil fields opening up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,706 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    You're a great man for the imaginary "reports" all the same.

    You back to fawning over the British far right groups after your little wobble earlier?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Timesheet


    Just watching him on the +1

    "The people of the country have asked us to do this"

    Ballsey stuff lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    People are worried about their access to fuel, people are worried about the consequences when emergency services cant get fuel. People are worried about loved ones who can't get to vital appointments.

    But yeah let's brand them all as living in a bubble and sneering.

    You cant hold the countries fuel supply to ransom, its a red line for most people. Protest is everyone's right but protest that endangers the public and our services no thats not your right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,706 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I think he's just confused, someone whispered in his ear that Discount Ray around the corner was seeing his fuel bill rocket for his wine runs in to Calais every week and was looking for a bit of green diesel on the side.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    I hope it gets sorted quickly but it's up to the Government to sort it out.

    There should be a price cap.

    Simple as that.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    This will actually have more profound effects in Ireland than it would in a lot of countries due to the relatively low density population and dependency on road transport for basically everything. Even EVs are just snarled up in motorway / road blockages on key routes and around the cities.

    Public transport's also heavily diesel-powered. I'll be optimistic and assume Iarnród Éireann has a significant fuel storage somewhere, but the bus operators are likely to start running out at some point.

    If it rolls on for a few days you're looking at real economic consequences and also reputational damage.

    Effectively it just means the country grinds to a halt and even a restart isn't going to be instant - fuel has to be distributed to empty tanks all over the country, and fuel shipments are going to be sitting in ports (at huge daily cost to hold tankers).

    I'd also assume refining at Whitegate is probably paused at this stage as there's nowhere to store the refined fuel if they can't get it out to distribution, so that's going to take a while to return to normal too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,771 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    So I suppose the Army are not in a position to shift these trucks after all? All the bluster from O Callaghan and MM over the last few days and now it's back to square one. The truck drivers should go home now as they initially said and attend the meeting tomorrow. If nothing constructive comes from it they could regroup and go again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭bluedex


    They can't even make eye contact with members of the public who tell them what they really think of them.

    Was walking in the city centre on the way into work this morning, the lights went red at the junction of a bridge and the quays, and about 4 of the "protester" goons stepped out in a line across the road at the lights and wouldn't move when the lights went green, backs to the vehicles stopped. The drivers were like "WTF" and beeped a few times. A pedestrian who may or may not have been me politely asked them "What the f**k are you doing... etc." but they just stared at the ground looking shifty. Dicks.

    Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,744 ✭✭✭almostover


    Is there going to be a reciprocal price cap on what haulage contractors can charge to distribute goods? Or what agricultural contractors can charge to the farmers who produce our food?

    A cap only on expenses is it? Not on revenues? How do I get myself into one of these businesses?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,606 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    It took me a 3 hour round trip to drop stuff into my wife in hospital today for a journey that's normally 30-40 mins each way tops. With having to mind 3 kids by myself and a full time job to hold down. But yeah I'm sneering at people apparently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    They should cover them with Palestine flags then no one can object to them



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    I have family that run a farm. They're concerned about the rising costs but an even bigger concern is access to fuel, which this protest has made even more pressing.

    They have 2 fuel tanks that would cover about 70-80 hours of work. What happens when that runs out? The livestock rely on the crops of which excess is sold on. It's better that it costs more to run the farm than to completely fail to operate, which losing access to fuel causes.

    This will be similar up and down the country. The people running these protests haven't a clue what it takes to run a farm and how time sensitive each part of the process is, if they did, they wouldn't be holding the place to ransom like this.

    Then there's the people who commute for 1+hours in and out of the cities. People who like the rest of us are struggling with rising costs of literally everything, living miles away from work because property costs are prohibitive and somehow this protest is for them? Sitting on a bus or in the car for hours on end after a day's work is not going to make them call their TD.

    There's a right to protest and a right way to protest. This one is absolutely tone deaf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    A mass arrest of these guys tomorrow would hit like crack



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,326 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    I believe the protestors have made additional demands

    • pints to be capped at €5
    • women to wear dresses in the summer time
    • Mayo to win the All Ireland.
    • Ukraine to be given to Putin ASAP
    • 3 dry weeks in June and July
    • animals to be sold in Guineas at marts
    • no visas for foreigners unless they work free on a farm for 5 years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    try having to drive family to a hospital with no fuel you gobshite



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Foul language from a Rugby gentleman I'm astounded.

    If you're not happy let me know who your local FFG TD is, I'll post their details on here and you can ask them to do their job and sort it out.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭thamus doku


    They should just cut the taxes on fuel for everyone. A temporary measure for say 3 months and reviewed every 3 months.

    It’s not that a big deal, we all could all use the help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,756 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Nobody comes out of this able to hold their heads up.

    Both sides have done wrong at some point

    Those blocking fuel depots and deliveries causing fuel to not be available in parts of the country are a disgrace. Thats on those protesters if anything happens to anyone due to a lack of fuel

    Their going in with the ifa who they wanted nothing to do with in the first place. Far frkm winning and they'll find out what actual negotiations look like tomorrow and guess what that'll mean pull your protest for any sort of meaningful talks



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    And how do you make any of that out? The protesters being part of the IFA delegation is not winning. It's them realising that unless they're part of a recognised body then they won't be entertained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Diddly Squat


    I'm a fg voter as of the last election, I'm also a hgv owner and own machinery involved in construction and groundwork, I buy an obscene amount of diesel and concrete (let me educate you about the rises in concrete sometime) every year, my family is involved in farming and am probably one of very few that has more irons in the fire regarding plant and haulage than most, I have 2 employees along with myself and I wouldn't dream of disrupting the general public in my daily life like these kunts are doing, I was of the opinion that the government should try the soft approach to the protesters and try and talk them down but after tonight's prime time I'd advocate strongly for the army and a large garda presence to blow these fcukers out of the water and tow them off public property and make them pay for the cost of doing so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Will the IFA members going into the meeting be able to resist the temptation to turn to the Famous Four and say "you're playing senior hurling now". 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Grassy Knoll


    my brother has an appointment tomorrow in Dublin for a consultation regarding pending surgery for cancer. Instead of trying to relax tonight, ahead of what will be one of the most significant meetings he will have in his adult life, the poor man is trying to figure out how he can even get there.

    Mob control has seized the country- unfortunately it will likely take one death from someone delayed in an ambulance to kill this ‘movement’. This seems to involve a shower of thick gob$h(tes who have strong opinions, with their facts, and simple solutions and will use bullying to get their way. In fact, no better than the disgrace in the US who started this …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭combat14


    theres not enough gaurds to do basic policing let alone conduct mass arrests - where are you going to put the thousands of farmers and hauliers the jails are already full - next thing you will have thousands more of their family members out on the street blocking and wrecking everything - its time the government copped on and gave what the vast majority of the country needs at the moment a serious price cap



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



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