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Fuel protest about prices

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    If the government bends over to this terrorism then someone else will step up next week trying to force their particular agenda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Eddie Hobbs

    Clare Daly

    Mick Wallace

    Eric Trump

    Paul Murphy

    Ruth Coppinger

    Healy Raes.

    Tommy Robinson

    Nigel Farage

    All of SF.

    Aontu.

    SDs are not sure yet, will see which way the wind is blowing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,854 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Firstly Calm down. You sound like that lunatic that called people protesting Irish Water, ISIS.

    Secondly, how would any other group blockade anything to force an agenda?

    Again, the problem isn't the protestors, it's the machinery.

    There will be no moving some of them.

    Many of the trucks have lifted their tippers - without the key to the cab, they will be impossible to lower, and could posed a potential threat to local power lines, if they are moved in their current state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 PressureMachine87


    Social media companies have a lot to answer for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭1641


    Because we are too reliant on corporation tax - and more specifically the budget surplus is reliant on corporation tax paid on profits booked in this country but based on no actual activity in this country. The patent licenses could be transferred elsewhere at the drop of a hat. And at some point they will. We have seen before where tax and spending commitments were made on the basis of one unsustainable tax source. When this dried up within a period of 12 months or so we were in a crisis and heading into "austerity".

    We should have learned from this but the cycle is being repeated all over again. The opposition all shouting for more spending and more tax reliefs and the government giving into demands to maintain short term popularity. By the end of this year this country will undoubtedly be poorer. Fuel import costs may come down a bit (or may not) but they will be far higher than previously. That is an unavoidable cost to the country and will definitely leave the state poorer. If there is an international recession as well we are in deep ****.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    People have the right to protest ….. but there also has to be rules of protest ….. protests that cause significant disruption and block vital infrastrucre and/or those which are violent should be banned ….. protests in recent years including the current one, the 2017 lengthy bus strike and the 2023 Dublin riots are ALL examples of such protests that should not be tolerated …

    In recent years, people's legitimate concerns have been hijacked by far right and other extremist entities like the 'says no' brigade and backed up by extremist parties like Ireland First, The Irish People, Independent Ireland, National Party, National Alliance, Freedom Party and Identity Ireland …..

    Blocking fuel depots, roads, oil refineries, etc. should not be tolerated ….. the greater good is more important than these protests which by the way are not official ….. the army should be deployed immediately to move them ….. only question is why have they not moved these individuals and their vehicles already ??? …..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The problem is the protestors, the machinery magically didnt appear there. No way should the Government reward this sort of protest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,946 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Then those inbreds either lower the tipper or be made aware they will be fined and permanently removed from the roads if they dont.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,854 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Given that would take legislation and our legislators are currently on holidays. That isn't really feasble.

    Shoot Protestors

    Intern Protestors

    Burn Protestors

    Permanently removed from roads.

    Maybe another Mass



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,854 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    No. I think you will find the thick end of the wedge is the Machinery, if it were just 20 lads hanging outside a refinery with placards it wouldn't be a problem.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 432Hz


    Anyone who brings up the possibility of a recession as justification for this or that has absolutely no idea what is going on economically in the world. There will be no recession. What we are going through now with inflation is far worse than any recession ever was or could be. During recession, some lose their jobs, some markets crash, some businesses close. Inflation, the way it is now attacks everyone, every market and every business, everyone is literally taking pay cuts year in, year out and expected to work harder the next. Not only are our salaries under attack, but our savings are being gouged. It's like getting pay cuts from every year previously worked. Anyone who starts parrotting "Near full employment, thriving economy etc. etc." is talking out their arsehole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,618 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Tippers can be lowered without the keys. Its just you won't be able to raise them again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    The army needs to pick one area tomorrow morning and clear the road. If this means destroying the machinery causing the blockade then so be it.
    Move on somewhere else in the afternoon- rinse and repeat. That would soften their cough.

    Calm enough x



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 on the bog


    It’s getting attention across pond, got colleagues in US ask me what’s going on and why they seeing bizzare stuff about Ireland on their feeds

    BBC too now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭thomas 123




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Government needs to follow the English policing approach of arresting and prosecuting all the far right protestors, or else these guys just get emboldened. Supply chains are already being blocked at key ports, if they get to Dublin port many businesses won’t be able to open soon and people will not be able to bring their friends or loved ones to hospital.

    “If they’re going to start arresting people … then we’re all going to do a rolling protest out here, up to the roundabout and back again at a couple of kilometres an hour,” one organiser said.

    these kind of threats should be taken seriously by the law



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,618 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    A few will see their machines damaged over this and all their support will melt away. Some of these machines cost as much as a nice house in the suburbs and quite simply their businesses are fucked without them. The repayments they have are absolutly crushing.

    A few fendts getting pulled out by the axles and getting bent will change everything. Government might tolerate motorway blockades for longer but it wont tolerate the fuel depot ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭1641


    Sorry, but anyone who declares that "there will be no recession" has absolutely no idea of what they are talking about. Nobody knows that "there will be no recession". There may not be but the chances have increased significantly.

    Yes, inflation affects everyone but especially people on lower incomes. But recession affects everyone as well. When both recession and inflation comes together we get stagflation which is exactly the consequence which flowed from the oil price shock of the 1970s - and which followed another middle eastern war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,946 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    the severe lack of intelligence is surely genetic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Wonder if the premises where they worked from / their home base was blockaded how they would like it. Or if one or 2 trucks caught fire? Could see that happening given the amount of disruption to peoples lives now. People not being able to see close relatives before they passd away etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Yeah that's the spirit, vote for FFG forever and expect things to change.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,946 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Thats a big party name sheepy. Never heard of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,854 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The Army Engineers have very limited machinery, if they start destroying machinery the danger is it will be 10 fold the next day.

    Again, soft cough or not. Pew Pew Die Die.

    Time for de-escalation here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    You're being flippant but it's a genuine question. All I see outside of FFG are fringe nutjobs who I wouldn't want within an ass's roar of power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    If the protest is about money then I think we have to show the protestors they will lose more money from their continued escalation. If that means damaging their equipment, so be it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,694 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Lol, you tried to come across sensible and rational when you started posting this morning but now your gone full off the reservation with insults all over the place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,946 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    You'd think the dolts would move the machinery before it got damaged but if they want it damaged thats on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭Med101007


    Is the M50 southbound completely blocked, just landed in Dublin Airport and we need to travel west to Galway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,694 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    You don't need to go near the M50, cut across to the M4 via west Dublin and Meath into Kildare.



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