Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

What kind of scientific tests do you see working?

Credible ones.

Not being funny or anything but it basically comes down to if someone makes a claim, and they say that claim is based on scientific evidence, I’d like to see their evidence. If they’re an organisation claiming that their evidence justifies a policy which discriminates against a group in society, then I’ll definitely want to see it.

I’m not sure what you’d be demonstrating with mano-a-mano tests like that tbh, other than it being a bit ‘daddy or chips’.

it’s easy to say you’re not a betting man but you’ve no doubt how I would bet - there are no stakes involved so you’ve nothing to lose. Would you take the bet if there were actual stakes involved? Well you’ve kinda got your arse covered already by declaring that you’re not a betting man, so knowing that, I wouldn’t even ask the question - I already know you wouldn’t.

I’m not sure what you’d do with regard to team sports, but if France are able to give World Rugby the one finger salute, there might be a chance of conducting a credible scientific study into men’s participation in women’s sports in France at least, with a view towards what could be learned from such a study. Something like this I suppose (equally rudimentary, just an example) -

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37090820/

EDIT: I knew I’d read a fuller version before, here it is, seems only proper, gives you a better idea of what I mean -

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/sports-and-active-living/articles/10.3389/fspor.2023.1120162/full

It’s probably for the best that you’re not a betting man 😬

Repeating it makes you look uniformed (not quite as bad as Jack of Spades) - which I don't think is the case.

I’m not sure what Boggles is wearing, but I kinda like my suit…

Ah there is for some people.

And for those hard of hearing, she trained for a handful of years and got a place on an Olympic team…which meant a female didn’t go to the Olympics.

It’s baffling how the point of this is totally lost on folks.

I'm not advocating anything.

I'm pointing out 2 truths.

I am a man, I am not a trans woman. 2 different things.

And no Man is becoming trans just to compete in women's sports, over night or in any time period.

There could be a myriad of physical differences.

But not something I would ponder, because it is none of my business.

It’s around males competing in female sports.

Nope.

Again. Transgender Females in Female Sports.

And good day to you Mr. “I’m not a betting man, only when it suits me, and I’ll tell you what you’d think too and I’ll be right”.

No need for the inverted commas around scientific either, I refer to the lack of scientific evidence, not to debunk what you’re saying, which is an entirely different claim (now you’re claiming it’s factual, that’s new!).

Obviously I’m not ‘admitting’ to something I don’t believe to be true. That’s not a refusal to admit anything, it’s simply a refusal to declare something I don’t actually know is a fact, as fact. Undoubtedly and understandably, undeniably, it would suit you if I did, as it would lend credence to your position, regardless of whether or not it was a belief I held to be true - it manifests itself in ways which support your already held beliefs - you gain all of the advantages, I’m left feeling like I got the shìt end of the stick, but that doesn’t matter long as you’re happy.

Yeah, that’s not happening, but good day to you too 👌

Again, trans women are males. They have never been and will never be female. Its impossible

WE come back to the common sense, why would you do a scientific study to quantify something the vast majority knows to be true?

Dunno what you’re asking me for, I couldn’t care less, kinda like the French Rugby Federation that way.

Do you hear your man above?

I do, but we’re probably not thinking of the same person, my man’s more of the metaphysical than the material variety. It’s what influences my decision making - WWJD? If you know, you know, common sense like 🤫

Credible scientific tests. Ok. They could take a sample size of men and a sample size of women, say several thousand of each. Have them perform the same physical activities, look at the results over a set period. Let's say this century. Then compare results.

Is there even a thousand men competing in women’s sports globally? Even in Ireland alone, where it’s estimated that there are a million women participating in sport, there’s only a handful of men (I’m purposely being generous) participating in women’s sports.

I’m not sure there’s a country in the world where there would be a sufficient sample size of men participating in women’s sports to be able to conduct a credible study. It’d be pointed out as an immediate limitation of the study.

(That’s a rhetorical question btw, I don’t think it’s fair to expect that you should be able to answer the question)

What even is the definition of "transwoman"?

My understanding is that the term refers to a biological male who identifies as a woman?

But clearly identifying as something and actually being that thing are not the same.

The idea is supposed to be that gender is a social construct but it's obvious that biology is not a social construct.

So yeah a man could dress in ladies clothes and change his name and to some extent he identifies as a woman and can be accepted as one socially but in biological terms that person is male.

How is it that people manage to get so completely lost in this grey area?

Biological males perform better at the vast majority of sports. So we set up a separate category for biological females in the name of fairness and equality.

However we use the shorthand terms "men's" and "women's" sports to make this distinction.

So people who are pedantic in the extreme come along and say "well it says Women's Swimming Competition on the sign not Biological Female Swimming Competition" and try to use that to undermine the whole reason for dividing sports by sex to begin with.