Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

The point is that the U.S. used ground forces in Vietnam and Afghanistan and got their asses kicked. In Iraq they created the ****-show that lead to the ISIS Islamic state that the Kurd`s had to clean up.

The idea that they could send ground troops into Iran and have a different result is the definition of insanity.

I'd say you would get good odds

What has he ever done that could be classified as intelligent over the long term?

Or at the very least what's his batting average of good ideas to bad ideas?....fairly poor I'd say if it wasn't for the massive privileges handed to him and people cleaning up his messes for him I'd have him at the level of a fraudulent used car salesman....and I feel I should apologise to used car salesmen for the comparison tbh.

I blame the teachers for the city blockage🤣

A quote from Vance last night

“As the president told me last night the Iranians are better negotiators than they are fighters,”

Laughable. A 4 year old sticking crayons up their nose could out negotiate Trump and his lackies.

Vance just out there admitting that their trousers have been pulled down.

Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but the Democrats pulled off 2 whopping swings in Wisconsin and Georgia last night, to mark TACO Tuesday.

First there was a 60/40 victory in a Wisconsin Supreme Court judge election, in what is normally a 50/50 state (and one won by Trump in 2024).

Judge Chris Taylor wins Wisconsin Supreme Court race, expanding court’s liberal majority | CNN Politics

Secondly the GOP held MJT's congressional seat in Georgia but only by 56/44 compared to 64/36 last time.

Republican Clay Fuller wins Georgia special election to replace Marjorie Taylor Greene | CNN Politics

They also increased their vote from 21% to 31% in a Georgia State Senate special election, in a deep-red area.

All in line with previous 8-10% swings that the Democrats have been achieving lately and suggesting that the GOP will find it very hard going in November, even after their Texas and other redistricting.

Christian Brother type eh……….

Putin will be arranging passage with the criminal gangs in Eastern Europe.

I'll be surprised if this ceasefire lasts to the weekend.

Well put

North Vietnamese losses are estimated at 1.1 million fighters. South Vietnamese military deaths totaled approximately 200,000–250,000, while U.S. fatalities were 58,220.

Iran doesn't have a China on its doorstep willing to pour in resources and it's not covered in dense jungle. 80% of the population doesn't support the regime either.

They'd take losses for sure but it'd be nowhere near Vietnam.

You can't say it's a good or bad deal until a deal has been made. The only thing they've agreed on as of now is to meet in Pakistan in 2 days and apparently a reopening of the straight but the biggest shipping companies are seeking clarification on that before they move.

Per CNN:

"The full details of the 15-point US plan have not been published but it is believed to include: Iran committing to no nuclear weapons, handing over its highly enriched uranium, limits on Tehran’s defense capabilities, an end to regional proxy groups and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. Other points on the table include an acknowledgment of Israel’s right to exist, the two regional sources said."

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/08/middleeast/us-iran-ceasefire-explainer-war-intl-hnk

These are the facts along with Iran's list of 10 points. They'll either meet somewhere in the middle or the war resumes in 2 weeks.