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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    True, but you are taking 2019 as the base year. Covid expenditure from 2020 to 2022 ballooned spending, most of it probably justifiable. Then the Russian invasion and knock on supply chain costs hit the economy etc, then the record level of asylum seekers arriving on top of the 100,000 Ukrainian refugees we'd taken in.

    The worry for me is the inability of the Government to roll back to prudential spending levels. Irish society now expects the government to cover everything that goes awry in the globe irregardless of causality.

    Stopping the madness of buying up any housing via ngo's and bad value for money long term leases on whole developments by coco's would be a start...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭1641


    Not just yet. But when Trump and the Ayatollahs realize that the next step is a flotilla setting off from Ireland they will soon back off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭DBK1


    So you can spot 40 at it now, that’s a far cry from your earlier post where you said they were struggling to get 2 vehicles to slow the motorway.

    Do us all a favour and get yourself to specsavers as quick as possible because you’re a danger to everyone on the roads if that’s how bad your eyesight is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Did you just create an alt account just to have a pop at another poster?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Lionel H


    Long time unregistered lurker, first time poster.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,210 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I'm sure they're shaking in their boots with the fear. Protests are apparently going on all afternoon so hopefully they are done before we get going from work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,932 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Was behind the convoy of possibly 10 tractors on the N22 from Macroom to Cork. That was fine, we understood the reason. However once on the Ballicollig bypass, another small group mainly of vans, parked up in the two lanes, to stop all traffic. Drivers hopped out and leaned on the fence, mostly young lads who felt the need to drape their vans in tricolours. I have been in many protests over the years. One has to be careful who you are being lead by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭giveitholly




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,982 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    MOD note - take it easy everyone.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,206 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    From Ballybrown to Shanngolden cross about 20 minutes, dead slow going into Foynes but just freed up as I was passing the circle K, I did a huey at EMO and went back out the road, very fast for first mile then its slowed to less than 5mph, took a back road and went into Askeaton and had a look.at N69 there it was freeed up. Obviously they had blocked the road back further around Aughnish.

    If you know the back roads you are grand its people travelling a distance and not google maps savy that are getting caught.

    TBH I again do not need specsavers. However if you think Diesel is the problem forget about it anything teavelling on a ship is going to get expensive.

    Maize is 350/ton ex port today, the next load coming in they do not know the price until the ship arrives and know its refuelling cost. They will be quoted the price then. Palm Kernal is gone to 240/ ton ex port. The feedlots will need 8/ kg to stay in business. The days of feedlots feeding cattle for 2.5/ day is gone.

    I take my chance with expensive diesel in a grass based system.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 captain hadley


    Better off going to the oil companies than the bloated civil service and I hear teachers threatening strike again I'm sure you will have the same opinion of them if they do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Some people were held up for hours near Limerick today, both lanes blocked in places. Hundreds of people have missed flights at Shannon airport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,829 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Causing people to miss flights etc is poor behaviour, it’s being a menace for the sake of it, it gains nothing but the inconvenience you inflict onto these people. 🤷🏻



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭harr


    last thing the organisers want is to lose public support.. a few lads took it upon themselves to block some roads completely even the hard shoulders .. what I have heard it wasn’t any of the haulers or farmers it was lads in small vans and cars who got ahead of some of the convoys .. one local county counsellor in kildare was trying to encourage people to park up completely on the roads instead of a slow rolling convoy.
    Such a great turnout today in most locations it would be a shame to lose public support because of a few gobshites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,782 ✭✭✭✭ELM327




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    It was a car park on the road today near Limerick. NOBODY in the cars I was talking to, who had appointments to go to, flights to catch, funerals, interviews, old people to care for, work to get to etc had any sympathy for those blocking the roads. A lot less work done today in the country and extra fuel used by cars stuck in traffic, detours etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    The problem with the likes of this is while it seems like a good idea, it will achieve nothing because there is no real leader to handle the situation to ensure head cases don't go off and do stupid things which will cause people to turn against the whole protest. Government know if they sit back & do nothing the protesters will end up defeating themselves. The best place to actually block would probably be the fuel distribution centres as its this cartel along with the government that has milked the people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭French Toast


    Just watched an interview with one of the organisers. He says they’re staying in Dublin until they get a meeting with a senior government official and real offers on the table.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭endainoz


    The real chaos will start with people trying to get home now, all well and good if someone misses a half na hour going to work but much different situation for people trying to get home to families, one way to rapidly lose support.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,932 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The lads in the vans blocking roads looks coordinated. Wonder who they could be🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭endainoz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,210 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Imagine the hauliers and farmers, not the greens, causing you to miss your flight. It's a strange time to be alive for sure

    Probably some kids heart surgeries cancelled in Crumlin as well so on balance there are bigger problems than a missed flight. I imagine plenty of ambulances were delayed in the chaos as well but let's focus on lowering the price of diesel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    are roads still blocked?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,210 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Say they do reduce taxes on dino juice. You happy to see an increase in VAT, URC or other taxes to make up for it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,760 ✭✭✭yagan


    I wonder if these true Irish patriots want to go die for Trump's war of distraction.

    Bet they know nothing of British interference in the middle East.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭One2Many7ups


    I agree but the Ukrainians and the record asylum seekers timing was incredible. The corporate tax windfalls came first, then the government pondered as to how they could get this money out of the public purse and in to the private hands of the Healy-Raes, Banty Mcenaney's and all the other parasites that have been sucking off the public teat for decades. Hence the massive welcome for all Ukrainians and 'refugees'. The money came first, they system to transfer it into private hands came as a result. If we never got more than 10bn per year in corporate tax we would be far better off. It has just been used against us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,938 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Somehow those protesting have deluded themselves into thinking this will get them public support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,210 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Couldn't be further from the truth

    Does anybody know what time it finishes at? I think that's what everybody wants to know



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,206 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Not sure now butbit seeded the 15-20 trucks from Foynes decidedvto slow crawl into Limerick arriving around 4pm,

    As an aside two of the transport companies would not have great names for compliance. One was hauled before a judge a few years ago, drivers always with Tacograph issues. He proceeded to fine the company to make the drivers comply as heblnew ot was the company pushing non compliance.

    I know little about the third. There was no sand and gravel trucks, no concrete trucks, no delivery trucks.

    Slava Ukrainii



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