US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

Not children - I believe they mean older high school students or university students (late teens, early 20s).

4.5 million of WTI dumped on the market at exactly 9.01 in one institutional trade - crashing the price by $2 since. Very dangerous profit-taking if ceasefire hopes are indeed scuppered - if indeed it is profit-taking.

Otherwise someone knows something.

If it trades down as a result during the day, look out for a big buy-back minutes before zero-hour. That might indicate an attack rather than a taco.

Where would the US be shooting from? Is it not in Irans interests to hit US bases today?

Really? I read that the government had put out an appeal for high school and university students, athletes, artists and members of NGO / volunteer organisations to go to the power plants. 12 seems very much on the young side.

Why pre-empt an attack ? They have told everyone what will happen in response.

Total destruction of Gulf energy production, Red sea closed, datacentres destroyed, bridges destroyed and water plants destroyed. They even gave the names and images of the facilities in advance.

You would be certain a few of those countries will not be too happy if Trump went through with what he has said he will do, but at the end of the day it is his call. I think he knows he is finished myself if he goes ahead, more worryingly he probably does not care either.

Looks like its going to get a hole lot worse now.

I’m not sure it makes much difference.

They try to wipe out the entire government and then complain they’ve nobody to negotiate with. Well, Trump complains. Netanyahu doesn’t want anybody left.

It's Israel. They already said they were striking railways. They will not accept any ceasefire. That's their MO. Just warmongers. A terrorist state.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-us-israel-kharg-island-netanyahu-lebanon-strikes-drone-live-sky-news-13509565?postid=11475488#liveblog-body

During the war with Iraq in the 80s, the Iranian military pressured the Ayatollah to give the ok to the military to produce chemical weapons, he refused on the basis they were haram. So it used to be that the Ayatollah had the final say on things, but knowing his days were numbered after the 12 day war it seems the power structure was changed( it became more decentralised) in order to try and make it harder for Israel and America in any future war.

I'd say it's more so, especially in the case of Trump, they only hear what they want to hear. It seems inconceivable that US military planners didn't forsee that Iran would use the Strait of Hormuz as leverage in the event of being attacked. Donnie, thinking he could replicate what happened in Venezuela by bombing the crap out of Iran for a couple of days, simply didn't listen to any misgivings

It seems inconceivable that US military planners didn't forsee that Iran would use the strait of hormuz as leverage in the event of being attacked.

It beggars belief if it is, in fact, true.

Jesus I could have told them that was going to happen.

I think the truth lies more in fact that they knew but didn't care. The Israeli's were always going to attack Iran, they're on a wild greater Israel land grab that's being facilitated more now than ever before by a US President. So Trump, et al, thought they'd get involved and consequences be damned. None of them will ever feel the heat because of their decisions as they're all insulated from the fall out and they don't give a toss about the ordinary guy in the street who'll now see the prices of everything rise due to the global interruption of oil markets. The likes of Trump wouldn't even have a clue what the cost of a gallon of petrol even is at the pump, or a loaf of bread in the local shop. He doesn't care.

The Republicans also know that they have another two years of chaos to do before they're, more than likely, turfed out of power. So they aren't in it for that game either.

I sincerely doubt that there was nobody in the corridors of power, either in Israel or the US that didn't warn of the obvious move that Iran would make regarding the Strait of Hormuz and the difficulties that ordinary people would face because of such a move. The thing is you have a genuine psychopath running Israel and narcissistic sociopath in the White House who'd happily take down the planet in pursuit of their goals and wouldn't bat an eyelid at the cost, even in lives.

I would say Israel is also among those countries not wanting a ceasefire.