Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Judges are not impenetrable. Just as susceptible to ideology and group think. Probably even moreso given the social circles they would move in. They never have to live with, experience first hand (or even second hand) the consequences of the crime they adjudicate on.

Communities are never given advance notice when an IPA is planned for their area, they  only find out after contracts have been signed.
It’s sickening that state land can be used to fastrack these developments.this land should be prioritised for housing Irish people who are struggling to find a place to live.

Just on these proposed 7 asylum centres. Obviously they should have to go through due process like every other development, but I would be in favour of larger hubs if their operating model changed to one with more emphasis on dentention and holding centres while asylum applications were being assessed. The idea that people we know nothing about can wander our streets for months if not years while they go through the application process is ludicrous. They should also be used as dentention centre if the application fails and while they wait to be deported, either through self deportation or forced.

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Jim O'Callaghan a FF member being minister is the only reason that clown harris is saying anything, if the position was still FG held he wouldn't and you'd have FF saying something instead.

It's just faux outrage to try make FG stand apart from FF, when they'd have done the same thing and had done the same thing back when McEntee had the job. FF do the same too, just playing control opposition to each other.

Where are the proposed centres being built? The IT only mentions Lissywollen in Athlone, Thornton Hall and Crooksling in Dublin.

Wont be anywhere near greystones, Helen McEntee constituency or Micheal Martins for good measure

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It's Ideological Subversion, manifest. The facts are consistently presented to people across Europe, Politicians and Pro-Migrant groups in particular, yet they refuse to believe them or any hard evidence. They look to bury it, gaslight, change the subject and finally criminalise any comment on what we see with our own eyes.

"As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fat-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That’s the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization.” - Yuri Bezmenov, 1983.

Said the same to the Mrs yesterday. My take depends on the context. If these are controlled detention centres to get these lads out of expensively procured private accommodation then these might be a good thing. If these however are to up the ante in terms of importing net drains then these are not a good thing.

Well obviously. But detention centres that restrict their freedoms while here are a damn sight better than the current free for all.

However I fully expect these to be luxury camps where these lads come and go as they please.

You need to wake up. Most of these illegal immigrants and their 5-6 children will never work and the few that do will never pay net income tax. They will require social housing for their entire lives and will end up costing us 400-500k each over their lifetimes. This is not counting the increased security costs as some nationalities from sub-saharan Africa and the middle-east are 20-30 times more likely to commit violent crime as an Irish born person. There are literally no benefits to Ireland from allowing these people to live amongst us and only downsides. They are competing with the working class only in the sense of taking scarce Government funding for social housing.

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Correct. We have, initially with the best of intentions, created a monster.

I find it funny that your strategy to "test the vibe of this thread" revealed exactly why these government policies are not good for Ireland.

You've admitted that the people we are brining in and putting up in hotels etc are going to compete for finite resources with those who are from lower socioeconomic backgrounds and those with poor education levels.

So we have an certain amount of people dependent on the state and the plan is to bring in even more people who will also be dependent on the state and then they can struggle it out for access to services, that won't be scaled up in line with the population growth, and scant resources.

It's not going to be the well educated or well off who will be affected, of course. The new arrivals won't be competing in those areas.

However we'll be sure to berate those lower down in society for daring to even complain about the governments plans. Is that it?