Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

Dr Robert · 06-04-2026 08:05PM

PSG 3/4 to win on Wednesday. I thought they'd be way shorter than that.

PSG 8/13 to qualify. Again, that's a surprise.

On current form Wednesday could be a struggle, especially if we concede early.

WealthyB · 06-04-2026 08:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124368057#Comment_124368057

3/4 to win is effectively buying money.

Interesting that Paddy Power have priced PSG -2 at a meagre 4/1. Looks like they are predicting another capitulation on our part if we concede first.

joinme · 06-04-2026 08:48PM

There is a chance professional pride will kick in and stung by the criticism, this team littered with UCL, WC and Premier league winners will defy the odds, and their coach, and produce a performance and result on Wed. I know it seems fanciful, but funny ol' game and all that ....

mosstin · 06-04-2026 09:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124368136#Comment_124368136

The only problem with that is that we'd have to do it twice over a total of 180 minutes. One off heroics won't cut it at this stage of the competition.

brevity · 06-04-2026 09:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124366162#Comment_124366162

I am far from a superfan, I just find the vitriol a bit much. In my time supporting Liverpool there has been a lot worse and it’s not an excuse to say that the players have valid reasons for being a bit ****.

It’s disappointing and listening to the Liverpool podcasts I definitely understand the frustration of the fans that have to travel and pay money to watch the team perform badly.

Maybe Slot isn’t the man to fix this but he was the man to win us a league. That’s has to count for something

BorneTobyWilde · 06-04-2026 10:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124368057#Comment_124368057

https://youtu.be/cYnEamaQR-4?si=B4GaYGZ4yv286bLH&t=47

….

noodler · 06-04-2026 11:13PM

95% plus of the posters disillusioned with the current state of affairs on this thread have not been spouting Vitriol tbf.

Balanced criticism with support is actually more common than not in my experience following the club.

It's difficult to let a league win count for blind solidarity when the coach's performances have us on a certain trajectory that every metric available would say is irreversible.

WealthyB · 07-04-2026 12:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124365631#Comment_124365631

As the day has gone on, this post has got me thinking. And it hits the nail bang on the head. And then I saw this multi-post on twitter; a rant yes, but one from the heart and I'm just gonna directly post it all rather than paraphrasing.

Getting a wee bit tired of experts everywhere acting like we're all being c*nts if we think we'd be better off with a new manager. Where was this energy for Chelsea? Or Spurs? Or Forest? They've all had three changes in the last year. Were their fans all unreasonable too?

Yes, Arne Slot won the league last season. And ever since we won it (quite literally, ever since) we've been sh*te. That's a year. A year of looking and playing sh*te, with boring, uninspiring football and heavy, embarrassing defeats.

ANY other big club doesn't stand for it. They ALL - routinely - sack their manager and move on. All bar us. And, for some reason, not only do we NOT sack our manager, but we get criticised for even considering it. Like we're all supposed to just put up with being sh*te.

Like it should make us all better people for showing the extra support. And sure, in an ideal world that's what happens. In an ideal world, we're automatically involved in the Champions League every season, based on our name alone. But guess what - it's not an ideal world.

We stand to lose £200m from not qualifying for that competition. We're running the risk of humiliation from having to kick a f*cking ball in the THIRD TIER of European football next season, all from just continuing with a manager who is seemingly alergic to fixing problems.

And that's what clinches it, for me. For most of this season, up until the last 6 weeks or so really, I've said I'd prefer him to find a way to fix things and prove people wrong. But he hasn't. And he's not able to do so. And that means he should be replaced.

It really is as simple as that. NO Liverpool manager, with this squad of players at their disposal, should be losing games 3-0 and 4-0, and losing 15 times in a season, and finishing on sub 60 points, and seeing us humiliated several times in a season.

And honestly, just f*ck off making people feel bad or guilty for suggesting the above. We set the level for ourselves, and that's just how it is. It's OUR level, and it's the level we aim for EVERY SEASON. Not being anywhere near it SHOULD F*CKING WELL see you hounded out.

https://x.com/i/status/2041263208908960122

awec · 07-04-2026 07:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124368310#Comment_124368310

him winning the league has counted for something.

It’s likely the only reason he still has a job at the club.

Dr Robert · 07-04-2026 07:41AM

Losing 15 games is an absolute disgrace. That's Brendan Rodgers territory when things went south.

machiavellianme · 07-04-2026 07:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124368685#Comment_124368685

Only 3 more defeats to go to draw with B-Rods worst season. We could have that beaten by the Everton game

LuckyLloyd · 07-04-2026 09:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124368136#Comment_124368136

Except, the pride has been under question for months now. Salah was benched; there was a whole media storm about it, and he went to the African Nations and returned still unable to kick snow off a rope. The team is getting beaten in terms of intensity, is operating within a system that lacks flow and width, and starts every game with 10.5 functional players.

The only rational answer was to let Slot go before the last International break, bring in Xabi or a caretaker and roll the dice. This coaching staff has lost any ability to win hard, elite-level games, and is curating a broken squad. PSG will unburden the 'firing Slot now would be mental' people of any remaining delusions.

It has been a slow-motion car crash for months, and it is frankly astonishing that it has been allowed to play out in full.

Osmosis Jones · 07-04-2026 10:13AM

In our previous weak seasons we at least finished strongly.

In 20/21 we only dropped 4 points from our final 10 games. (8 wins, 2 draws)

In 22/23 we dropped 6 points from our final 10 games. (7 wins, 3 draws)

This season we've already dropped 8 points from our final 10 games, and we've only played 3 of them! (2 losses, 1 draw)

jesuisjuste · 07-04-2026 10:23AM

The major issue for a caretaker or alonso coming in is that our fitness is in the bin right now. We are consistently running less than our competitors, and players are mentally and physically gassed by the end of games. There is nothing a new manager will be able to do about that until they can start to implement new training and fitness regimes in pre-season. How much improvement could we expect to see in a handful of end of season games.

J Mysterio · 07-04-2026 10:25AM

Together with Szoboslai's recent comments, and then his strange approach to the fans, Van Dijk comments after Man City are particularly damning:

“Obviously you come out of the dressing room (after half-time) with the right intentions to score and make it 2-1 and change the game, but the opposite happened and then to come back from 3-0 is obviously very difficult.

“But also you shouldn’t give up, and that’s maybe what happened at a certain point. It’s mentally very tough at the moment, I must say.

“I’ve been lucky enough to play for Liverpool for so many years and the main thing always was the togetherness.

“Now, obviously, we are in a little bit of a transition so we have to find it. It’s still difficult to then perform each and every three days if we don’t have it consistently.

“The togetherness on the pitch to show it for 90 plus minutes every three or four days. That is difficult.”

He is clearly saying the team gave up, and that they lack 'togetherness', which is affecting their ability to perform as a team.

If Slot hasn't managed to forge a togetherness (it's obvious he hasn't) after the entire season (and a PL winning season last year), and his captain is saying this after a drubbing (and actually using a negative Slot talking point about a match every three or four days ) he has no business being manager. Sack him now, enough.

noodler · 07-04-2026 10:45AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124368867#Comment_124368867

Yeah, the season we didn't get CL (22/23) we still finished with 67 points and 5th.

We need 6 wins from our last 7 just to match that total.

awec · 07-04-2026 11:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124368310#Comment_124368310

In my time supporting Liverpool there has been a lot worse

This is completely irrelevant by the way.

Liverpool today is not the Liverpool of the Hicks and Gillette era. There is simply no comparison. Slot does not get any credit because of how bad we were at the end of Rodgers or under Hodgson.

Slot is blessed. None of his predecessors inherited a team with the quality he inherited, or joined a club that was so well run. None of his predecessors got a summer transfer window anything like what he got last summer.

brevity · 07-04-2026 11:49AM

I am not sure how you could say he is blessed considering what happened to Jota. And what happened at the victory parade.

I also think that just because we signed a load of players that things should magically click. A lot of what made Liverpool work last season left in the summer.

The level of Individual player errors has been really damaging too. Slot can’t tell them not to do stupid ****. Or maybe he has to at this stage and he doesn’t have a strong enough squad to

I think he’s gone either way, despite a miracle in the CL. The fans haven’t warmed to him at all.

Bacchus · 07-04-2026 12:32PM

Ah come on. Not making light of Jota's death, or the attack on the parade, but you can't use that to just dismiss the situation and squad that Slot inherited. It shows just how strong a club he walked into that last season he won the league with them. And then had a Summer where top talent was brought in… Wirtz, Isak, Kerkez, Ekiteke, Frimpong. On paper, he came into this season in position none of those H&G era managers had.

That said, I do think he has been incredibly unlucky with the injuries and Salah's drop in form. Leoni and Isak in particular, just freak accidents. On the RB injuries I question how he's been handling Bradley and Frimpong. They are both so fragile. Even there against city at the weekend. The game was lost, why risk bringing Frimpong on if he's just back from another injury.

I think if we weren't even challenging for the top 2 but were comfortably in the top 4, still where we are in the cup competitions, and playing with some sort of drive, energy or vision, he'd get a pass on the season. There are circumstances there that would knock every team down a peg or two and you could look at this season as a transistion season. However, we're barely scraping by in the matches we do win. I can probably count on one hand the number of performances I've seen where we looked like a "top 4" club (nevermind reigning champions). It's not good enough and over the course of the season, that stops with the manager.

8-10 · 07-04-2026 12:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124369169#Comment_124369169

He wants Frimpong to play tomorrow so he basically has to give him minutes against City. He only played for 13mins across the 2 internationals so that's all his football since 21st March when he played an hour v Brighton

I don't see that as a bad decision at all. If he can't play a half hour in a game that's already lost how can he be thrown into a massive CL quarter final from the start tomorrow?

brevity · 07-04-2026 01:04PM

this is a good rant from John at TAW

https://youtu.be/GX8w39_uE6k?is=ybV2SuzCeVmUn3QO

J Mysterio · 07-04-2026 01:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124369255#Comment_124369255

Excellent video. Particularly the points of valuing hard work, togetherness (looking after each other), and humility.

I was shocked to find out many of the players (and the coach) are living in Manchester... That is completely bizarre.

Dr Robert · 07-04-2026 01:14PM

We are down roughly 30 goals or assists from Salah compared to last season.

Add in Diaz leaving and Jota. That's a lot of goals and assists that need to be replaced.

Iasks injury was a huge blow. Wirtz has been disappointing. Ekitike has done really well.

I do think whoever comes in has a brilliant squad. That front three alone plus Szoboszlai behind is a superb quartet.

As disappointing as this season has been, there's plenty of hope for next season imo. New manager hopefully and fingers crossed we'll be in the CL also.

AdrianG08 · 07-04-2026 01:25PM

Dom Szoboszlai is extremely overrated. Set pieces, highlight clip player. Terrific athlete, good shot on him. All round game is sub standard, cannot pass or play in tight spaces.

No dickhead policy in the dressing room seems to be slipping too.

dogbert27 · 07-04-2026 01:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124369169#Comment_124369169

The main frustration is that with the players we have and the games we've dropped points in we should be comfortably in the top 3.

Losing last minute away to Crystal Palace as the first loss or drawing last minute away to Fulham with a worldie goal as one offs you could take it on the chin.

Dropping points against Leeds, Burnley, Wolves, Forest at home, an Amorim United team, A Spurs team who lost to everyone in the league is why we are not in the top 3 and all those results should not have happened.

Those results have nothing to do with Jota or what happened in the parade last year.

I've been defending Slot up to about February and saying to give him more time but the last 6 weeks of results have been criminal.

If everyone was objective, a review of the last 12 months of results showed our performances inconsistent going back to right before the PSG games and the League Cup final.

Slot said it himself in one interview, that in the second half of last season we more or less lost the element of surprise with the new changes he brought in and clubs figured out how to play us. He has not been able to make any changes to this and as much as I hoped he could turn things around, I gave up on him 6 weeks ago.

For me he's now in the Ten Hag bracket of managers. Yes he will always be credited with winning us our second premier league and I will not take anything from him for that as his changes coming in to the season were effective. We were on such a wave in the league that the players were driving results home in the end to get it over the line, e.g. West Ham at home when we conceded a later equalizer you could see the determination in VVD's eyes that we were going to get another goal and he went and got that.

From VVD's interview at the weekend that belief is gone in the players and the manager is clearly not of the level of man management that he is inspiring them to get it back and have that "togetherness".

dogbert27 · 07-04-2026 01:29PM

One thing that stood out with Dom at the end is that Chiesa was the one telling him to stop and come away. A player who has been so mistreated by Slot, he was the only one reading the room and telling Dom to stop and come away.

Chiesa has every right to say "fxxk it" with how he's been treated but he actually cares about being an LFC player and knows what's right.

I mean, throwing him on at 4-0. "Hey Fede, we're losing 4-0, you're on. Go prove why I should be picking you". Slot can manage a squad of 14 players in an Eredivise league but a club like Liverpool cannot operate on a squad of 14 players when you need to be striving for playing up to a 60 game season.

Osmosis Jones · 07-04-2026 01:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124181666#Comment_124181666

I posted this back in January, Van Dijk has now surpassed everyone on this list with 4,131 minutes played this season, we still have at least 9 games remaining too.

Might lend some context to the "what's happening to VVD lately?" talk.

Electric Nitwit · 07-04-2026 01:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124369255#Comment_124369255

I agree with every word of that...

...except... I hadn't seen the post he was talking about where Szobo was showing off a watch. I was picturing a blatant close up of something dripping in diamonds the way John described it but I think he means this picture, and I don't really see an issue here...

(Poor taste aside 🤣)

Osmosis Jones · 07-04-2026 01:54PM

Tbh I don't think I've ever cared at all about how players dress in their personal lives or what kind of selfies they post on instagram, and I definitely don't think any of that reflects on anything that happens on the pitch, it all feels very...

awec · 07-04-2026 02:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124369428#Comment_124369428

I agree, but I don't think that was the point he was making.

I think his point is that the players seem to think they live in a bubble where they'll enjoy unquestioned support from the fanbase no matter what's happening, whereas yer man is pointing out that the fans will tolerate players acting like peacocks so long as they're doing the business on the field.

The support is being unbelievably patient with the dross being served up, so Szobozlai having a go at them was completely out of line.

I think it's really just more evidence of a growing disconnect between the players / manager and the fans.

Honestly, it'll be miraculous for Slot to turn this around. I think things have just progressed too far. It's all about when the best time to boot him is now, it's no longer a question of if.

I will be very disappointed if Slot is our manager next year and at this stage even pulling off an absolute miracle and winning the CL wouldn't change it for me, I am completely unconvinced he is the man to take the club forward and I think if he's here next year we'll be having the exact same conversations in October / November as we are having now.

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