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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,187 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    so again what’s your suggestion 🤔🤔🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Good few local lads heading to support it,local agri contractor who is very good to employ college students at weekends and over the summer. Also a builder/part time farmer. All sound and very hard working fellas,majority have very young families so are really feeling the pinch. Local tyre centre is sending representation as well. Its a pity a few nut jobs are trying to hijack the protest but you will always have that.

    But a few around here only want to put the one label on everyone,and hoping its a failure. God forbid the ordinary decent working folk try make a stand for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    hhear hear. good to see some action taking place to make this government sit up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,187 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Blocking roads in and out of Dublin is only going to land on the shoulders of other hard working people, many already under the same pressure. It will be tradespeople trying to reach jobs, carers getting to clients, hospital staff, shift workers trying not to lose a day’s pay. All sound and very hard working men and women, employers and feeling the pinch.

    In reality, it is the blue collar workers, trades, and rural commuters who will be hit hardest. Many others will simply work from home and carry on. So it starts to look less like a protest aimed at decision makers and more like a glorified tractor run that ends up frustrating the very people already feeling the squeeze.

    It is no surprise then that the Irish Road Haulage Association appear to be backing away from it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,187 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    All you mentioned above are the backbone of rural Ireland and parishes right across Ireland and should all be supported ,why anyone would want this to fail is beyond me because ultimately if action isn’t taken now business will go under ,workers be laid off etc ….just hope the hardcore brainless element are kept away from it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    The president of the IRHA is a fianna fail head, was grinning away at a fianna fail bash locally in february with Micheal and co in the local paper , would have aspirations like a previous president of the above organisation, wouldnt have anytime for the man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    What do you suggest they do? As for the IRHA,I wonder did they mandate their members on whether to protest or not. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the top table of the IRHA didn't want to rattle the cage of the Government too much,because down the road they could be looking at furthering their careers and want to keep everyone onside



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    And what exactly is the aim of the protest. What is going to happen in 3 week time when we run out of fuel if this war continues. All the protest will do is annoy people in ordinary jobs that need to get on with there lives.

    Even when the war ends it possible the price of diesel will remain up near 2/ litre. What I cannot fathom is that the hauliers do not write clauses regarding diesel prices into there contracts. These are the same people that are campaigning that tractors on road work should have to use white diesel. Anyway alot these hauliers will ne parked up in six month when the world starts going into recession

    Know a few people that need to get to Shannon Airport tomorrow morning. They are going to have to try find routes to avoid this f@@kuo

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I'd suggest they stop interrupting people's working lives when the politicians they're targeting are not even in the country. They're sunning themselves in America.

    All it does is hit tradespeople, shift workers, carers, small business owners and rural commuters trying to earn a living. The people being disrupted are under the same pressure, if not more. If you're going to protest, at least direct it where it actually affects decision makers, not ordinary workers trying to get through the day.

    I’ve had to cancel a job in Meath tomorrow now and it’s completely fooked up a carefully planned week. This wasn’t just me turning up somewhere. It involved lining up the weather, the client’s availability, the seller, and another contractor. All of that now has to be rearranged, if it can even be rearranged at all.

    imagine the reception I'd meet if myself and a few mates rocked up from Dublin to your place of business and started blocking gates and access. You'd hit the roof.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Just on the carers and hospital staff trying to get to work,whenever they have gone on strike,especially nurses,they have got overwhelming support from the rest of the country. People had hospital appointments postponed and cancelled but the majority still supported the nurses despite the inconvenience.

    I reckon it will be the same tomorrow,majority of people with common sense understand the hardship high fuel prices are bringing. It will only be the vocal minority who will complain and try make the most noise and put down the protest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 RidleyReport


    Ho boy just once to only have the kinds of problems you have in Ireland instead of this U.S. shi*te.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭50HX


    Sadly she got over 1500 first preference votes, we were watching it at time & had to wait until the 8th count for her elimination.

    Can't stand her, constant barage of what every other party is doing...yet doing fook all her herself...dangerous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I don’t think it’ll be the same. This feels more like a vocal minority disrupting people’s working day, making noise, and before long it’ll drift into immigrants, housing and the usual shotgun stuff that tends to come with unorganised, unsupported protests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There will be a lot of people miss hospital appointments tomorrow because of this BS. Even those that manage to attend may find cancellations becase of the way this will effect hospitals.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Well all I know of the few that are going tomorrow,that if they could in any way get the price of fuel to to drop to a level where their business is sustainable,then they won't have time to protest about immigration and housing crisis because they will be too busy working and making a living.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Exactly like loads of people missed hospital appointments when the nurses striked but they understood. We are going around in circles here,don't think there is too much more to be said. Some people are only hoping this is a flop so they can say I told ye so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There is a significant difference between the nurses strike and this BS. The nurses withdrew there labour whic⁸h any worker is entitled to do if a vote to strike is passed. In there first strike in 1999, they provided voluntary cover unpaid. Subsequent strikes they provided cover but insisted that staff providing cover be paid.

    TThis Is not a withdrawal of labour, its basically acting the bollax with trucks etc blockading major cities. Its designed to effect ordinary people to coerce them into blaming the government for this.

    The reality is its the average thicko own fault not to have a force majure condition in there contract. I see where certain business involved in haulage have already implemented 8% surcharges became of the rise in diesel prices

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    "the average thicko" wow you really do hold yourself up in high esteem. Its a wonder you let yourself walk amongst these common thick people. The reality is you know nothing about 90-95% of the people joining the protest tomorrow but you have them already judged.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭fran38


    If the Gardai let the haulage protest go off without any type of blockage/fight back, thats a sign that the government couldnt give a **** about tomorrow. Knowing full well that protests such as these fizzle out over the course of the day. What we need is a type of canadian convoy looking to stay the course over a few weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    No I do not hold myself in high esteem. However I understand that other have to get on with there lives. I did not suppo⁸rt the "thicko" behaviour of a former IFA leader chaining trollies together to effect ordinary people going doing there shopping, or "thicko" dumping trailers of vegetables in front of supermarkets at christmass. Neither did I support the last couple of major Farming protests driving big tractors through Dublin.

    People who work and commute day in day out deserve more respect than to be used as pawns by "thicko's" some tomorrow will be on a jolly because there employer will give them a truck and a fill of diesel, some will be hangers on professioal protestors and the "thicko" will be there as well

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,813 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    As far as I see the Facebook page is the primary front for this organisation. They should be curating it better and removing anything that’s not related to this protest. Remove all the anti immigration anti establishment rubbish, they should have done that from the start. It set a bad tone on their main communication platform, Attracting the wrong sorts who are out there looking for anywhere to vent.

    It definitely seems to be getting some support, hopefully they behave themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭eastie17


    others have said it, a load of shite, achieves nothing. Go protest at the US embassy, that’s the source of the problem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    What exactly does a go slow into Dublin achieve. The only people the co slow will be inconviening will be normal people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭SimpleDimple


    it serves to highlight the ignorance of those taking part in the tractor run. They think that people in Dublin are all living cushy lives and aren't also scraping to make ends meet, so by disrupting their day they show those pesky rich dubs in their ivory towers how the real worker is struggling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,187 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    farmers ,contractors ,builders ,hauliers ,commuters ,car owners ,house owners etc etc are all normal people whom this is and will affect unless action is taken now ,one day of inconvienence is a small price to pay



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    I'm sure they will behave as most want to end being ripped off and are decent people who don't want to get screwed by government inaction. otherwise the cost of doing business is going through the roof. 99 percent of people on thisare not thinking about anything else but fuel costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Diddly Squat


    I agree with you a hundred percent but anyone outside haulage and farming aren't really seeing it as quickly as we are, my wife's car used to burn around 50 a week in diesel, its now around the 70 and to be honest she barely noticed it went up, it's coming into the summer as well so not as much kero being bought. I'm thinking a lot of folks are a month away from fully realising the cost of the rises. I could be wrong. I also think inconveniencing the public is a non runner, if the hauliers and farmers out today had a pair of balls at all they'd park artics and tractors across the gate of every port in the country for as long as it takes to get the government to the negotiating table



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Well then organise a protest march and see will these people support it. However we all know and the thicko's esoecially know that all that they will get at such a march is a few thousand if eve that. This is basically people running businesses and operating onntoo tight a nargin. Thst have build up business in too much finance. I have seen hauliers that have wwnt from 6-10 trucks about 10 years ago to 50+. They have expanded too fast, probably have nearly 100% borrowing's on machinery, I see the same with contracting, young lad without a pot to p!ss on has set up an outfit, he has new tractors, tankers, hedge cutters, he has a couple of diggers on the new road. He drives a 2025 pickup. He is in his mid twenties. There wouldvhave been little or no equity setting this outfit up.

    The Businesses whinging now are exactly similar to the ones that went bust in the last crash, probably a lot of the same faces or there children. As a Ugandan's ( got out of Unganda a few hours before Ida Amin's thugs were planning on collecting him)I knew said once at lunch at a meeting, "it the same old faces in the same places spouting the same sh!t) .

    This is what happens as a recession starts lads that are over extended start to fell the pressure. With the adventnof mobile phones, broadband and the internet its too easy to organise meeting and a rent a mob

    Slava Ukrainii



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