US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

Im sure the Iranians would be shouting it from the rooftops if true.

Nations have no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests.

But experts have been able to geo-locate the precise location where the US transport planes and helicopters were destroyed - it is 100 miles from where the F15 crashed and where the first pilot was (allegedly) rescued. Even the Sky News military analyst fella mentioned this yesterday and said he couldn't understand the discrepancy.

Something about the account from Saturday night doesn't add up at all.

A recent U.S. mission to rescue a downed airman may have been a cover operation to steal Iran's enriched uranium, the country's Foreign Ministry alleged Monday.

Earlier Sunday, President Donald Trump said the U.S. recovered a second crew member of an F-15E that went down over Iran Friday in what he called a "daring" search and rescue operation.

Iran's military has called it "a deception and escape mission," insisting it was "completely foiled."

On Monday, Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman Esmaeil Baghaei said there were "many questions and uncertainties" about the operation.

"The area where the American pilot was claimed to be present in Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad Province is a long way from the area where they attempted to land or wanted to land their forces in central Iran," Baghaei said.

"The possibility that this was a deception operation to steal enriched uranium should not be ignored at all."

He added that the operation was "a disaster" for the United States.

Iran's military said several U.S. aircraft had to "make emergency landings" in southern Isfahan province after being hit during the mission, with the U.S. "forced to heavily bombard the downed aircraft" as a result.

*(As referenced further up, analysts who have geolocated the site where the US planes were destroyed confirm it is indeed a long way from where the second pilot was supposed to have been shot down, at least 100 miles away).

Id have no doubt believing the US administration have/would alter any aspect that didnt suit their narrative but this theory would be odd.

What was the aim of this attempted ground incursion?

Are we to believe both pilots were already rescued before this event?

I mean was there enriched uranium where the planes did land? Presumably this qould be something the Iranian foreign ministry would know. Why they ambiguity in their statement?

Sounds far fetched to me.

In all fairness, a coalition like that already exists. Israel have played this very well. They will go full steam now to clean house as much as they can.
there will never be another American president that will let them do whatever they like while also backing them with all of America’s military might.

they know the jig will soon be up and are going to make hay while the sun shines.

Does not sound great, the guy in charge of the missile department is suggesting that an escalation of attacks on energy sites has started. Last time a couple of weeks ago Israel bombed that petrochemical site at Pars, Qatar's LNG was taken offline for 3 years.

Any small chance of a ceasefire or any deal looks dead in the water now

No, the 2 planes were multi purpose heavy lift planes.

Sky News guy said it was normal for them to leave behind and destroy aircraft if plans change on the hoof. Said they did so with the Bin Laden raid.

The US have confirmed the 2 planes they destroyed were C130s.
The models used for CSAR are MC130 and HC130, only the MC130 carries the MH6s,and it can only carry 2.
There were 4 MH6s destroyed.

The notion that it's "normal" to destroy them is an interesting take.
The USAF certainly plan redundancy into their mission profile but these aren't disposable assets.
Ideally they will get all assets in and out unscathed.

The Bin Laden example, the helicopter that was abandoned and subsequently destroyed.
Crashed due to ingestion issues caused by hovering over the walled compound.
It was a stealth modified UH-60, one of very, very few and one that has yet to even be clearly photographed all these years later.
So as a result of the crash, additional standby units were used for the evac and the chopper was torched.

One of the most technically sensitive helicopters ever used in service.
They hadn't planned to lose one, and certainly not in the manner they did.

If it was a bungled attempt to steal uranium from Isfahan, is that why Trump fired all those military guys on Thursday? He fired everyone who said it was a retarded plan

They seem to be sticking with the story of ‘at least one’ of the C130s getting stuck in soft ground. From the NYT.

The plan was to immediately load the airman and the rescue force onto two C-130 aircraft that were supposed to carry them out of danger to an airfield in Kuwait. But, in a final twist, the nose gear of at least one, and possibly both, of those planes got stuck in the sandy dirt at the airstrip, military officials said.

Hours passed. Efforts to free the stuck wheels failed, so the commandos called in three replacement aircraft.

Officials in the Pentagon and at Central Command waited anxiously. The success of a dangerous mission, which had seemed nearly complete, was suddenly once again uncertain.

The guys with military knowledge on social media say they cannot be entirely sure of what the reason for such a ground operation would be or even exactly how events unfolded on the night - but they strongly suspect the administration is lying and that Saturday night was a US ground incursion that went disastrously wrong and was a total failure (and there's not even much evidence that any pilot was rescued on the night).