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A great surmation. Yet there are those who will simply say "he's fallen off a cliff" as they've done with Salah (who has also had to endure a system that plays to his weaknesses instead of his strengths)

Salah is a different kettle of fish. He literally has one way he can be effective now ... giving him an obscenely high volume of chances around the penalty area. If you do, he'll likely do something great.

If Mo's finishing was still aces then that might be true.

But, along with his pace. trickery, physicality, his finishing has also been really bad.

My point is more VVD would be fine if the team was functional and he wasn't overplayed whereas I don't believe there is anything we can do to make Mo work in this team anymore.

VVD hasn't gone from almost faultless to a bad error every 8/9 games. Standard is still high but he's not in the worlds class bracket anymore imo. As has been said, ridiculously overplayed.

Salah has gone from 1.3 goals or assist every single game last season to one goal or assist every two games this season.

At this rate his total will be roughly one third of last season.

Spectacular fall off.

What would salalhs goal to shot ratio be compared to the likes of Suarez or even Torres be.

I've always felt Mo squandered a lot of opertunities

Really? I'd say he's better tbh

If a team collapses so easily, that's on the manager.

We never gave up under Klopp, now it's the complete opposite. Soft as ****.

That's depressing. Losing mentality.

It's a disgrace it has been allowed to continue this long. It was clear long before Christmas this was a mess.

But being able to execute a plan for 90 minutes is far far far more important than what the actual plan even is if you ask me. It makes no difference whatsoever what your plan is if the team can only execute it for 35 mins and concede 4 goals in the other 55 minutes.

I'm so tired of the constant excuses and concessions being made after every game. Go back and read the thread, it's littered with excuses after every bad performance. When is Slot gonna be held accountable for the many mistakes he has made all season in every area of management from top to bottom?

Even just forget coaching, tactics and systems. This team has no fight left in it. That is unacceptable. We have gone from mentality monsters to the team with the least fight in it in the entire league under his management.

I think this might be influenced by the current group think of Salah bad in this thread.

When Suarez was playing for us, especially during the years 2010 → 2012, there was an awful lot of gripes of him being very wasteful in front goal. Doing the sublime first to beat a man and then hitting it straight at the keeper etc.

The thread is "littered with excuses" after every bad performance? No its not. The majority of posters are calling out what's going on at the moment and wanting Slot gone. Its the very odd post at this stage defending the performances.

When it comes to media, there is usually a narrative in the background that they all adhere to, and it is most obvious when it comes to the integrity of the league. Pundits and players, and anyone on the take essentially will tend to toe the company line in these instances.

In the case of Slot, they do not want a narrative luck being the reason he won the league last year. It undermines the premier league and its entertainment value, which is worth billions upon billions. Pluckiness and tactics and player freshness which has now gone stale is a much better story to tell.

Another glaring example is how they protect the referee's when they screw up, there is always a clear alignment behind the scenes. It's somewhat funny to listen to Neville and the likes when they see a screw up live, and piss and moan, but then come out later and say they agree with the decisions.

I mean going all the way back to October when the rot set in, every game since there's been excuse after excuse trotted out…i dont just mean thhe last month or so when the opinion has firmly shifted.

Treating the games as inconsequential is part and parcel of the rot creeping in.
Yes, the title was won.
No that doesnt mean one allows the standards drop.
Job done, doesnt mean clocking off.
The league season is 38 games, winning with games to spare?
Is fan-fúcking-tastic, however allowing that to become checking out of the competitive mindset and coasting to towards the end of the season?
Isn't so great.

Winning isnt something that can be switched on and off easiliy.
Allowing the winning mentality to be parked towards the end of the season has been shown to be an atrocious mistake.
As he hasnt got the personality or dressing room presence to bring those players he allowed switch off, back into a high performance winner takes all mindset.
Indeed, now that Liverpool really are in an "every game matters" moment?
How can the manager who allowed the April wind down, to park performances and enjoy the victory?
Be expected to be the manager to coach us out of it.
Not only did he make the bed we find ourselves in at the momment, he swapped the mattress for a bed of nails.

The 5 wins papered over so much. Once the poor performances turned into losses, a few people began to question all the way back to March or thereabouts, the league cup as Bainie01 said. That was dismissed as a end season tiredness and sure it was in the bag by then anyway. Those people got vilified here for daring to question the great all winning manager. Superfans/enablers rounded together to attack. You don't have far back to go in this discussion to find them. Excuses as you said.