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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,592 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    And still without a reasoned explanation of why his or her life was put in danger in the first place...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    many people are saying that his death rumours were a clever ruse, that he actually personally parachuted behind enemy lines, armed with just a shotgun and a bible. He killed 100 Iranian terrorists and rescued the pilot and hijacked a local helicopter a flew it directly back to the White House.

    Thank you for your attention on this matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Patser


    I doubt any were, it'd be too politically damaging for it to be revealed as a lie later in, and if their bodies were left behind: Iran would be quickly displaying them.

    However as more details emerge, it does look like the rescue wasn't a complete success. At least one C130 transport plane, and one small helicopter destroyed - US claim stuck on ground, destroyed by them to prevent falling into enemy hands, Iran claims they shot them down.

    So price tag so far is 1 x F15, 1 x A10, 1 x C130 destroyed, another claimed damaged, 1 x Little Bird helicopter destroyed, 1 x Black Hawk badly damaged. That much is confirmed.

    Iran claim a few more as well.

    Expensive toll



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭amacca


    Oh I didn't go in himself, I had a golf round to attend but I gave each and every soldier very very specific instructions to bare in mind so they could reign successfully down on the enemy in the bigliest of ways, do you like my pen? its an example of how I could've saved money on the federal building if it wasn't fir Joe Biiiiden and Barack Huseeiin Obama.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    it is hard to believe that no US soldier escaped being injured /killed in the rescue operation for the 2nd soldier.

    Why? Theyre exceptionally good at what they do.

    I think people need to get it out of their heads that there is a cover-up of US casualties.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,722 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Because even when you have all the tech in the world, soldiers are still just men running around in a warzone with rounds flying everywhere and are extremely vulnerable.

    If they lost the amount of hardware being reported on then it would be very unusual for there not to be some casualties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Patser


    What's interesting is Trump's relative absence in all this. He's gone missing for the weekend, even his message last night about the Rescue success was relatively mild, and not in his style.

    You think he'd be front and centre trying to get all the attention back on to him.

    Instead there are growing rumours, something is medically wrong with him - which I believe are too good to be true. Probably underwent some sort of medical procedure and is recovering, rather than some massive health problem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    They had their families with them at Manama, the port in Bahrain where the fleet was based. Not much chance of proper defence for them against rockets, just a worry for the military knowing their families were on the front line of fire if they stayed in Manama. The rockets just fly, crash and blow the **** out of whatever is there, no discrimination.

    As for the land-based marines, with the fleet at sea out of the Persian gulf, the Strait is directly between them, making a run in and a return run out between the Straits nothing less than a target practice zone on the double.

    The problem here is the C-in-C is Trump, a man who will make decisions on the fly, without any strategic or political need to, just for the headlines.

    Edit, at Field east: this might be what you were referencing from about the relief lift fro Manama. This is a partial lift from a facebook page quoting a group/body named NPR. I am taking the content below at face value without verification as a response to a sudden fact facing people.

    NPR reports that over 1,500 sailors, their families, and pets have been evacuated from Bahrain after the Trump administration launched a war against Iran without doing the slightest bit of preparation for any possible consequences, like missiles being fired at US bases. "They had to leave in a hurry, many taking only a backpack with clothes. "They literally told them, 'Get what you can get in the backpack. You've got to go,'" said Derrick Johnson, commander of American Legion Post 327 in Norfolk, VA. “They came with no uniforms, nothing. The three we met first, they came with the clothes on their back, what they could fit in that backpack."Unsurprisingly, the Trump administration made no preparations for their arrival, either, forcing the local community to hold donation drives for basic necessities like hygiene products. "The base was asking for donations of toiletries and different things for the sailors coming back, because they were coming back with nothing.” The Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society has handed out $1 million to roughly 2,000 sailors and their families since the evacuations began, said the group's chief operations officer Dawn Cutler, a retired rear admiral."I saw one gal — she had a 2-week-old and a 2-year-old and a dog in a crate and a suitcase. So she was just at the moment, you know, looking to get out of danger, get to someplace safe. And now we're at the point where families are back and they're starting to ask the question: 'Well, what's next? Will we go back?'" said chief operations officer Dawn Cutler of the NMCRS.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭amacca


    I hope it was a fcuking brain transplant and they replaced that fetid cesspit between his ears with a human brain capable of logical decision making in the interests of the citizens of the US and everyone else on the planet

    Failing that an actual golden retrievers brain would be an improvement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭Damien360


    So we should expect a medical report saying the doctor thinks it's the best he has ever seen. And on the sh*tshow goes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,346 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    All they have to do is put him in one of those Medbeds.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Well I suppose for starters there were some injuries as it's well reported some airmen took some small arms fire and were injured. But I give zero credence to what Trump specifically says.

    But also if they say planes were destroyed on the ground then I don't see why they'd necessarily have casualties.

    While I'm aware the US is on a very slippery slope there is no real reason to believe there is a cover up of casualties. Beyond anything else it would be insanely difficult to do and the civilian leadership have not displayed much in the way of competence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,760 ✭✭✭yagan


    Doesn't the commander in chief have authority over what gets reported about military operations outside the US?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    This.

    I'm amazed at the skeptics here and efforts to somehow downplay what must have been an exceptionally difficult combat rescue operation.

    No other country in the world is capable of doing the likes of this and the Maduro capture earlier this year.

    The US intelligence and armed forces are exceptionally well trained and funded and getting out a missing Colonel who has been behind enemy lines for over a day without losing a single service member is insane.

    I was very impressed and glad to hear the news when I woke up this morning

    Some posters here I think would have been happier to hear that Iran captured him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Heart of a 30 year old, reactions of a gazelle, higher IQ than Barack Hussein Obama, 11% body fat and the most healthy President there has ever been in the history of the world, or any other worlds that might exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    I'd suggest the Irish Army Ranger Wing Operation Sparrowhawk in Lyberia in 2004 was a far more difficult rescue operation under far more difficult circumstances.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    No.

    There is a general deference to not report on things that would endanger US personnel. Though they get reported on after the fact.

    Not to mention that it would be hard to hide deaths from the families at home...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Why should anyone here care if he was captured? He was over there dropping bombs and no doubt killing innocent civilians. We’re not meant to care about them, but we are meant to care about him? Why is that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,321 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    He was flying over Iran actively destroying their country and killing loads, why would anyone be happy the Americans killed more people and damaged more equipment rescuing him? Are we meant to feel sorry for the chap? It will make a great film in a few years just like 'Black Hawk Down' though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭mountain


    good American lives are waaay more important than Arabs, Palestinians

    Netflix are probably drafting the movie scripts right now



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,572 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    There was some amount of nonsense in the media over the last two days with commentators saying that if he was captured a hostage situation could arise. He would have been a prisoner of war, not a hostage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,575 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Ah yeah, as our resident soldier tells us, you have to respect the office. **** laughable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Arseboxing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,321 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Trump in the mirror 'Repeat after me, I am not deranged, I am not deranged'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭amacca


    "Open the Fuckin' Strait you crazy bastards"

    I'm genuinely at a loss here......its dialogue from Southpark.....

    Have the US gone and elected a mentally ill person to be president along with all his other extreme shortcomings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,543 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I'm still believing that's not him. I think he's in the bowels of Walter Reed.

    Wishful thinking on my part I know. I want him to last the full term, he and America deserve everything they get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,655 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    How presidential & statesmanlike



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Could be worse, he could have control of 5000 nukes or something.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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