Liverpool FC - Talk /Gossip/Rumours 25/25

Van Dyks mistake changed the game. He's had a few of those this season.

He's still a top player but he's clearly on the way down.

Well I doubt he's lying. Who would be lying too exactly? The media after the games? VVD and Szoboszlai have also spoken numerous times after games that they're not playing with, or moving the ball at the speed in which they had intended.

So the question has to be, if Liverpool are training to play a certain way. The players are openly admitting after games that they didn't play or carrying out those intentions. Then where is the breakdown? Are they simple not playing for their manager when they get on the pitch? If that answer is yes, then its the end of the road for Slot.

Slot got us the Premier yes Slot his management and coaches. That at least he earns some admiration from me

You can't have special times, if there are no horrid times. If Klopp could be so easily replaced, he'd not be very special. It's just life, I think we're now destined for a period of mediocrity, and no one will break that cycle. LFC has a history of this cycle, fate, we got City away, not Port Vale at home. Chelsea would be out if the draw was the opposite , and we'd be through. And we know, without knowing, that City draw WH OR LEEDS next .

I don't know if it was a permanent thing, but after Jota died in the summer, Slot said to the players "If they want to train they can train, if they don't want to train they can not train. But be yourself, don't think you have to be different than your emotions tell you"

After the tragic circumstances, it was fair.

The pre-season was disrupted, delayed etc. Clearly, conditioning is not there as a result as the players have looked leggy all season, and look out on their feet on 70 mins every game. So many late goals conceded and not many late resurgences after August/September.

There have been some reports that the training sessions this season have been VERY pedestrian paced. Sometimes very short sessions, or multiple short sessions throughout the day with long coffee breaks breaking them up. A morning session, with a break and then a short intense session before going home. Not a full session of intensity but a portion of the day.

Recently VVD spoke about how the day before a game he was "surprised when I was on the training pitch yesterday and I only saw the amount of players that I saw".

The official LFC twitter again was posting clips from training this week, and honestly I've seen more intensity at 7-a-side. It was slow, pedestrian and frankly just plain crap.

Serious questions need to be put to Slot on this. And if his reasoning that he has to tailor the sessions to be more calm because the players are not conditioned and they are trying to protect the players from injuries then fine, but just say it out. Be honest. Don't hide behind the bullshit of them 'training well'. Because they clearly aren't.

Wirtz lets Semenyo go there, VVD comes over, and it's one on one in middle with Haa and Konate.

Sad , Wirtz never tracks.

Definitely.

Tbh I don't have the energy to go searching now but if I remember correctly a few players did speak publicly about how much they liked Heitinga.

It's actually incredible.

Every minute of every game in every competition.

You are actually correct, didn't play in either League Cup game.

Still leads the way though

Yes

Elliot Anderson would be a great signing, no player has run as much in PL this season, But City will snap him up, like Semenyo.

Bookmakers don’t often “get it wrong” in the way people think, because their goal isn’t to predict outcomes perfectly but to manage risk and ensure profit. They typically aim to balance their books so that they have exposure on all sides, adjusting prices based on the weight of money coming in and hedging where necessary.

Odds aren’t just a pure reflection of probability; they’re also shaped by market activity. If a lot of money comes in on one side, bookmakers will shorten those odds and lengthen the other side to encourage bets that rebalance their position.

They also wouldn’t deliberately offer an overly generous price on one outcome without adjusting the rest of the market. Doing so would distort their margin and expose them to unnecessary risk. For example, if they truly believed Liverpool only had a 5% chance of winning, they wouldn’t offer overly favourable odds on the opposing outcomes without accounting for that across the entire book. Lowering the odds on Liverpool if the money in that market was saying otherwise(as you suggested) would involve increasing the odds on the other outcomes.

In short, bookmakers price markets to maintain a built-in margin and manage liability, not to give away value. If they consistently mispriced events in the way described, they wouldn’t stay profitable for long.

Does Salah start against PSG, or do you save him for home leg, and pack midfield away.

_________Mama____

Gomez_Kon_VVD_Robertson

___Gaven______Mac______

Sobo____Wirtz____Kerkez

________Ekitike_________

Given how slow VVD looked yesterday I was surprised when i checked, he played almost 180 minutes in two recent Dutch friendlies. He has also played every second in the PL. Considering the City and PSG games are pivotal in a disastrous season i would have thought he would benifit from less minutes in friendlies.

Another one who can leave this summer. The arrogance is off the charts, imagine fronting up to the away support after that performance.

Make no mistake the rot is setting in fast, and spreading.