Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

50HX · 04-04-2026 07:59PM

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Yes deserves time.

I'd be alot happier with current results if we could see incremental improvements but its the opposite at present.

To get killed by the Sharks & then turn around & get 2 pts out of the Bulls game doesnt stack up.

Some of the stuff today you wouldnt see in AIL... throwing to the tail of a lineout & a gale blowing....ffs

PMC83 · 04-04-2026 08:03PM

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Some bad decisions for sure. As a neutral though I'm mainly wondering why Munster only seem to turn it on when its too late in recent games. They were great in the second half today, but totally rigid in the first.

Paddy_Mag · 04-04-2026 08:16PM

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Exeter took their foot off the gas in 2nd half and just defended their lead. It struck me that Munster had a gameplan and played to it instead of playing the conditions.

Munster have bigger issues ahead too. Beirne might be about to head into his final year of his career and Ahern/Edogbo have been injury prone. Edogbo in particular needs to spend some time working on his fitness. He needs to be capable of playing 80 minutes regularly.

Wycherly is average. Kleyn is leaving

Im not convinced by Casey at all. I also thought Casey and Crowley were terrible in the first half today. Crowley was much improved in 2nd half but missing touch with that penalty with 6 (?) Minutes left was criminal.

budhabob · 04-04-2026 08:56PM

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Can I ask have you watched Fineen in detail during a game? The LO is always better with him playing, he's a physical SR, has cut out alot of his stupid penalties and has a great engine. We are a better team when he plays.

breezy1985 · 04-04-2026 09:02PM

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And on more beyond that.

I would love to know who in the middle of a crisis of confidence announced redundancies. Financial problems don't just jump out at you. That could have been done in the last or next off season.

Paddy_Mag · 04-04-2026 09:03PM

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I have watched him. He works hard etc , but is very Average. Munster really need edogbo to have develop into an 80 minute player as he brings far more to the table.

50HX · 04-04-2026 09:23PM

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Ah you can compare the potential of Edogbo to FW.

Edogbo may never become an 80min player...we don't know yet.

FW Is a key squad man until someone from acedemy shifts him

snotboogie · 04-04-2026 09:47PM

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Edogbo was always going to be hugely limited in his playing time this season given his injury history over the last three years. The biggest risk factor for Achilles is fatigue, he has obviously been limited in how far he can push himself which is going to affect fitness. I honestly didn’t think we’d see 80 minutes this season.

Pepp1989 · 04-04-2026 10:46PM

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Did Edwin not play 80 today?

Cookiemunster · 04-04-2026 11:50PM

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Fineen making us better is an indictment on the coaching and the level of player in the squad. He's not good enough to be starting for a team that wants to be challenging for silverware.

And that's an indication of why we are where we are.

ShineyShiney · 04-04-2026 11:54PM

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One of Munsters best players this year and the second half of last year.

Paddy_Mag · 05-04-2026 10:00AM

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Therein lies the problem. FW is average at best, works hard, would never knock his honesty or effort etc but he wouldnt be known as a dominant tackler. Doesn't provide a ball carrying threat either

if the LO is so heavily reliant on him to function that speaks volumes about the other players, and the coaching for that matter.

There is a reason why he gets nowhere near the national team ( one cap as a sub v USA during a Lions summer) and if Munster had a European cup or URC QF/SF next weekend and no injuries, Wycherly is suited and booted and sitting in the stand.

The reality is Munster are carrying too many players at this level. There is no short term fix to this either IMO. The league table doesn't lie.

50HX · 05-04-2026 11:30AM

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I don't agree re the lineout being reliant on him thats someone else's view.

He's not a starter for key European games which is why I said he is a squad member.

When you are minus your internationals/injury I'm OK with him starting away in Wales for example in the urc.

He's staying put until someone better comes through to displace him...we ain't goin to fix it with an NIQ

snotboogie · 05-04-2026 01:04PM

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Yes which I didn’t expect to see. He’s ahead of schedule and posters saying he needs to improve his fitness are missing the context of his injuries.

Paddy_Mag · 05-04-2026 01:06PM

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I think he needs to develop his fitness to be an 80 minute player. The clue is in the sentence ... "develop"

50HX · 05-04-2026 08:50PM

Does anyone know the logic of playing against the wind when we won the toss??

phog · 05-04-2026 09:09PM

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I assume the hope was we'd keep within a score of them and of course, if we didn't gift them 3 tries then it was entirely possible that the halftime score would hsve been much closer

Edit to add, the forecast on YR was that the wind was to pick up for later in the game

50HX · 05-04-2026 09:35PM

Hearing this evening that Roger Randle is a done deal for attack coach nxt season as reported by the Indo a few days back that he was in the mix

Stanley 1 · 05-04-2026 11:22PM

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At a guess this would be a HC decision.

almostover · 06-04-2026 08:48AM

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FW is basically a repeat of Billy Holland. A slightly undersize lock who is a great grafter and LO operator but will be overpowered by the very top opposition. A great player to have in a squad though to captain the team for away URC games in Italy, Scotland and Wales but not quite good enough for the big CC games.

Stanley 1 · 06-04-2026 12:29PM

Exeter have been dismantled and rebuilt by Baxter over the last 2/3 years, a lot of pain and refocusing but they now sit in the Top 4 in the Prem and going well, would fancy them to win in Benetton next week.

Waboso is a physical freak, very Lomu like but a lot quicker, certain English starter when fit.

sleepyman · 06-04-2026 07:39PM

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Totally agree.The problem has been there's been too many Billy Holland standard players playing pivotal Champions Cup or URC games when they should be playing the Dragons on a Sunday.

Packrat · 06-04-2026 10:24PM

There's a lot of old underperforming and permanently injured players that should be cut before you get to FW.

Hes not perfect but as said above he can do a job in certain situations which occur regularly/occasionally.

RichieRich_89 · 07-04-2026 12:45AM

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Internet says Feyi-Waboso is around 6' and 90 kilos. How is that Lomu-like?

RichieRich_89 · 07-04-2026 12:53AM

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I'd be surprised if the IRFU would give the green light to that, given what comes up online about occurrences in Durban in 1997 when you search Randle's name.

But certainly McMillan needs to get his own assistant in to coach the attack. What would an ex-backrower know about attack? He needs a good assistant.

50HX · 07-04-2026 08:53AM

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All a bit messy alright yet he was never found guilty as charges were dropped.

Don't think McMillan was ever going to coach the attack which why Randle is coming in

CONSI · 07-04-2026 09:27AM

Scrum needs serious work, Line out needs serious work, defence needs serious work, skills need serious work. Unfortunately maybe the players need a new approach and new voices and Leamy and Lawlor I think have to follow Prendergast out the door. Replaced with who I dont know but it needs to happen. Also this Limerick v Cork thing has to end…there's other counties in Munster, Thomond park is the best stadium we have, we use it, simple as that, we can discuss the folly of building it or the size and the business model at a later time, but for now we make it a fortress again, you can be sure thats what the likes of connacht and ulster will do with their stadiums. Ulster next up in Thomond, not optomistic based on current form..still tickets available, but €40-€60 for the stand, no wonder people arent going. €180 for 2 adults and 2 kids to go, whatever way you cut it thats a lot, especially when the players on the pitch are shouting at each other about urgency. No wonder attendances are down.

Red Silurian · 07-04-2026 10:39AM

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Open to correction but I think Southern Kings were the last professional club team to move some home games to another city so if this Limerick-Cork thing continues to fester that's where the province could wind up. What league do the Kings play in again these days?

PUC is unlikely to be an issue again next season as the use of it is based on us being in the Champions Cup

johnnyryan89 · 07-04-2026 11:11AM

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You really think the IRFU are going to open the big can of worms that's the Paddy Jackson situation with this signing?

lawrencesummers · 07-04-2026 11:59AM

Anyone who wants to make an issue of the Cork Limerick thing would be better of expending that energy into asking politicians why we are no closer to a motorway between the two cities than we are when ROG made his Debut against Harlequins in 1997.

The issue isn’t that games, players, admin etc are both in Limerick or Cork as much at the horrendous journey between the two of them. We won 2 European cups with that set-up.

There is a little over 100km between Musgrave Pk and Thomand and that journey should take an hour but because of the shocking infrastructure you couldn’t do it in 2 hours as it stands.

Munster Rugby - the MRSC - players - management and anyone else involved in the club should be making a public show of the Government over their malaise in getting this built. It was first mentioned in 2008 FFS - It’s having a massive impact on the club and they should do something about it because the money will go to children’s hospitals or Dublin metros otherwise

Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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