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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Warning in Post #8023**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Arseboxing


    "In the absolute worse of these crimes the victims should have the right to choose a more severe punishment instead of having to live with the fear that the murderer will one day walk free."

    No they shouldn't. The justice system doesn't and shouldn't run according to Brad Goodman "do what you feel" nonsense.

    "Its not savagery when its done to a deeply evil criminal."

    Eh, yes it is.

    Arguing that something is savagery most of the time but not savagery when you feel like it is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard.

    What about my post is "silly"? It's a basic description of objective fact.

    Savages who commit genocide have totally warped belief systems that lead them to thinking they're standing up for "decency" and "civilisation" by their very acts of savagery.

    They aren't. Obviously they aren't.

    Same as those who cheerlead the medieval butchery of prisoners.

    Every prisoner has a fundamental basic human rights no matter what they've done. The right to life is the first one. The right to not be tortured is another one.

    This is the most basic of basic stuff but our society now seems to be becoming so dumbed down that we have jennets howling to throw away even the most basic tenets of civilisation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    I beleve they should, murder victims dont get moments of happiness like mass murderers do. Its not savagery when its done to an evil piece of sh*t rather than a person. If a savage murder was ever done in the name of justice it would be a court that would decide not me. That paragraph i mentioned is about as factual as saying the earth is flat. Violence towards innocent people and feeling angry about what criminals do are two completely different things.

    Its not a crime to want criminals to suffer more and genocide is the worst crime that exists.. they are about as far away from each other as throwing a stone v dropping a nuclear bomb.. you comparing them is dragons, unicorns and santa claus stuff.

    If evil people didnt rape and murder children i wouldnt want a harsher punishment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Arseboxing


    The Iranians shot down a US plane over Iran today and there's some talk (it's unclear as far as I know) that there's a potential hostage situation with that pilot.

    That pilot was there to participate in a bombing campaign which has already killed 150 schoolgirls in a double tap bombing and killed presumably thousands of people by now, a bombing campaign the Americans openly boast is designed to send Iran "back to the stone age".

    What is the correct way to proceed as the captors of such a prisoner?

    Is it to gouge that pilot's eyes out and torture them until they are dead?

    My two cents: no, no it isn't.

    But your mindset says yes, yes it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    You are completely wrong, my mindset says no. You are mixing up 2 different subjects as usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,376 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Gorillaz are the closest thing to a pink floyd live show these days



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    You mean spectacular lights and video show to take your attention away from the mediocre music?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,735 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Bono and U2 are/were extremely cool.

    Even now the Popmart and Zoo TV tours feel like something on a different level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭Hoop66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 428 ✭✭Mother Shaboobu


    People who pretend not to know what others mean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I'm assuming that's directed at me, so I somehow deserve torture for asking a question?

    I honestly would like to know who you think "deserves torture", please?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,376 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Tommy tieran show has evolved into a pretentious pile of shite with an unqualified couch psychologist that assumes too much of himself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    What about a known paedo who was seen clearly on camera kidnapping a child, and has hidden it somewhere before being caught, and is now refusing to cooperate?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,234 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I find it incredible that amidst a global fuel crisis, NASA can bring humans further than ever to essentially take a photo of earth and name a crater on the moon. Seems incredibly indulgent and doesn't exactly scream 'world-altering scientific breakthrough'.

    Space travel is stoopid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Science is not stupid. Some fly to space for the craic while some others starve to death and yet that's how humanity pushes forward. Otherwise, it's a deadly mediocrity where we're all equal in misery. Also, americans didn't sabotage themselves by banning or moving away from fracking, and because of that they are very unlikely to suffer any shortages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    When the Ardnacrusha hydro electric facility was initially proposed- De Valera was supposed to have said “what do we need all that electricity for?”.

    Anyone who is against any space exploration is against progress.

    Some people are against this project because they are anti-Trump or anti USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Honestly, I'd never object to such initiatives. Plenty of innovations that are used in day to day life including medical technology originated from space travel. Plus it's currently a legitimately peaceful endeavor focused on science.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Over a period of time all primary schools in Ireland should be transitioned over to be at the very least partially Gaelscoil schools. All the primary teachers are supposed to be fluent. Start with the Naoinan Beaga and transition the schools starting at that younger age.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    All schools should be state owned full stop . Government pays wages etc and if churches want to own the land back charge them for maintenance put CPO' s on the lot .

    National and secondary .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    The State doesn’t have that kind of money.

    It’d be the religious orders that own the land in any case, but there’s nothing to prevent the State from establishing and maintaining new schools which would be governed by local ETBs.

    That’d be a costly exercise too, seeing as schools are currently managed by a board of volunteers, whereas the State would have to employ staff to manage the school, and cover their pensions and other costs.

    The State are barely providing for education as it is, so while CPOs would legally be possible, the cost would be prohibitive as the local authority would have to pay fair market value for the land or property. Cheaper to build new, but not by much, and then the ongoing costs would cancel out any future financial benefits, but the State would own the schools at least.

    Unsurprisingly, it’s only minority opposition parties that support the idea. They’re even more flippant with ideas for spending public funds than the current Government.

    Controversial opinion? Leave current schools as they are, build new schools, and give parents more alternatives than simply Catholic school A, or Catholic school B. State school A, or State school B. I’m not sure it’s actually considered controversial, no idea how controversial really the idea is or isn’t tbh.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Fair play that you’ve managed to stick it long enough to see it evolve; I figured it was like that from day one, though admittedly I’ve always found Tommy about as funny and/or profound as haemorrhoids in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    That may seem doable in Dublin or the surrounding area but impossible in county towns . The churches both Catholic and Protestant , be it CoI or other do not have a leg to stand on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I think the soundbytes are sometimes really stupid. When you're spending all that money and using all those resources to say 'look it's a black guy in space or the first woman on the moon' then it makes NASA look like they're not about space exploration and more about fundraising.

    But if you research a bit more about it you might find more meaningful purpose. Personally I don't think we'll ever have a net gain from it as long as they're relying on non renewable energy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,376 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Actually there was a big gap between seeing the show first and how it is now and the jump in pretentiousness astounded me 😀😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭Hoop66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭jacool


    "Haemorrhoids in the first place" I can handle. Haemorrhoids in the second place are a pain in the hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,691 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Yep , a joke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Defo against the tide on this one but I think we are making a mistake on fully removing religion from schools. I know it's the consensus now to secularise everything. But there are definite benefits of rites of passage for children along the journey up to confirmation age. Community element of it. It should be voluntary at all levels of course but I just wonder if we might regret it down the line.

    Church of Ireland schools are important for people from that tradition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    What business has religion in schools? If it’s ok to have religion in schools why not have it in sports clubs, planning departments etc etc.

    Why don’t we have it in our universities? We don’t have it there because it’s all nonsense.

    If you want to play “woo” then do it at home.

    We, the taxpayers, currently pay teachers to teach this nonsense. The state should cut this immediately and let the different religions pay the teachers wages for the portion of the day that they spend teaching this 💩



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    What business has religion in schools? If it’s ok to have religion in schools why not have it in sports clubs, planning departments etc etc. 

    Why don’t we have it in our universities? We don’t have it there because it’s all nonsense. 

    If you want to play “woo” then do it at home.


    It’s part of education provided by the religious organisations that own the schools. We absolutely DO have it in sports clubs, planning departments, and universities. People’s right not to be limited to playing woo in their home, is protected by the Irish Constitution. Children’s right to receive an education in a school receiving public funds, without being expected to play woo, is also protected by the Constitution.

    We, the taxpayers, currently pay teachers to teach this nonsense. The state should cut this immediately and let the different religions pay the teachers wages for the portion of the day that they spend teaching this

    We, the taxpayers, don’t pay teachers. They’re paid by the Department of Education.



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