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Would you visit USA in the current climate?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Lets see, so far we've had racism, homphobia, praise for ICE, encouragement to share private data with an American paramilitary group, attempts to advertise American tourism and attempts to portray themselves as Irish in the grand total of 7 posts.

    Sorry @hermanmunster, us Irish aren't as easily fooled as your MAGAt base.

    The Guardian - US directs embassies to team up against foreign ‘hostility’ – and use X to ‘counter anti-American propaganda’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭yagan


    @hermanmunster

    In fairness aer lingus have done well out of the bogtrotter trade for all country n Irish fans who love a bit of twang.

    New blood isn't an issue either for cousin marrying folk.

    Hats off to ya.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    Decided never again the moment Trump was elected 1st time around. There will be a Civil War there in next few months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    No !



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I was going to quote that poster to say that I didn't believe a word of their post. But, it seems they've already been banned. Oh no!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Not visiting any country that goes to war on the whim of its Supreme Leader.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,700 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    While I think the disolution of the "American Experiment" is on the cards simply because of the American mentality to put themseves before community and country, I don't see a civil war no the cards. The blue states are not going to continue financing the red states and the federal government if it continues the way it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,303 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I wouldn't go to a lot of places based on their politics including Dubai and China but then I've been to China (Shanghai mostly) back in the late 1970s (a lot less developed than today) when I was in the merchant navy and can see its interest to people who haven't been.

    Your work colleague may be holding the U.S. to a higher standard as it commonly promotes itself as a 'beacon of freedom and democracy' in the world.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Mayo and Louth


    Tell her the next time she's going on holiday to either of these two places, to publicly disagree with their government polices when she's there and see how she get's on…………



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And personally I wouldn't travel to China etc. But the very fact the US has declined to the point where the president is using the office to target his political enemies and is so blatantly corrupt, that's a pretty embarrassing state of affairs for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭forumdedum




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Mayo and Louth


    I won't disagree with you re Trumps polarising behaviour. It's often quoted that before the Civil War there (1861-65) that people used the saying: "The United States are", and after it: "The United States is", ie, a singular identity. Slowly but surely IMO, the US is returning to the pre-civil war "are" definition. Not to the point (I think) where secession of states is a possibility, but there is currently the (unbridgeable?) gap between West/East coast Liberalism and the conservative religious block in the red states. State rights count nowadays if one holds strong views on issues like abortion etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Ah, a rant about liberalism while dodgy the fact he's incredibly corrupt. On top of that cheated on his wife with a pornstar and even raped a woman. Not exactly a great representation of conservative values.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Mayo and Louth


    "a rant about liberalism"

    A what??? Where's the "rant"…?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I was going to go over at the end of May to see friends, but that's been called off for unrelated (medical) reasons, before I booked anything. I wasn't exactly keen on the idea anyway, even though I'm a white middle class male with a clean passport, with no social media presence, doing Preclearance in Dublin.

    (If you're thinking of saying "you're on Boards, isn't that 'social media'?": Boards, like Reddit, is more like anti-social media!)

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,951 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Apparently now believing that women should have rights is a "strong view"

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    FML, boarding pass in my hand for saturday, business class hoping for first, and since 2011 i have visited sudan. Syria, cuba iran iraq, etc.

    Wish me luck:)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,436 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Im at a loss here as to am i a terrorist in business class or first class or even economy class



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,951 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That's what they all say 😉 and they don't even tick the "are you a terrorist" box on the form.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    I honestly don't understand this logic. I don't think visiting a country as a tourist equals supporting their government. At most you are contributing to the local private economy, and then the national economy through taxes, but that's miniscule and not exactly a political donation in support of Trump. I mean, I've visited the UK as a tourist plenty of times when Johnson was PM and I never once considered that I was in any way supporting him. I can understand, and even appreciate, boycotting US tourism on moral or ethical grounds, but to paint any and all visitors to America as being supportive of Trump is unfair.

    I loath him and the dipsh*ts he has chosen to run the government. But I will be going to America soon to visit a national park that's been on my bucket list for years. I'm not going to let the fact that he is in power prevent me from doing so. That would feel like he has too much influence over my life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,700 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    People visiting Ireland must be cúnts too then since we have a paedo ring of a church thats still refusing to pay what theyre legally entitled to, moving priests around from parish to parish to hide them, not reporting cases of child abuse etc. All the while paying no tax and getting hundreds of millions a year from the taxpayer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Sitting in a New Jersey bar drinking Guinness, slow immigration queue in JFK as usual but a 2 minute chat with the officer, bags ready when I got to the belt.

    But it was fecking weird to see ICE people at the outbound security checks, last time i saw people like that was in Baghdad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭vixdname


    I have family in the US that I have visited for many years annually, they come over the Ireland too.

    I dont support DTs ideal of politics in any way, nor do I support your horseshit black and white view of the world.

    Neither DT or w*****s like you will ever stop me staying in touch with my family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭yagan


    Thanks to the beauty of the internet staying in touch with my Trumpy relations there has never been easier, but having one of them tell me that we have to support Israel because they look like us really makes me prefer not having to visit.

    These are people who used to lecture us about British injustice in Northern Ireland. It's like they got some kind of racist infection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,607 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Have a nice safe trip to whosoever chooses to visit the good 'ole US of A…

    This just dropped from an enlightened poster, hovering well above the swamp this morning:

    "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again".

    Thank you for your attention to this matter. Donald J Chump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭Infini


    Personally honest I'm not bothered to set foot inside the US for a few years, not until Trump and his Degenerate Republican Party of collaborators and corrupt bastards are gone from power and preferably if they decided to go full scorched earth and prosecute the lot of them for their roles in all of this. It's not the shít with ICE harassing people that just concerns me it's the fact Trump and his ilk are actively trying to undermine the EU at a time when Russia is attacking in Ukraine and covertly in other ways across the continent. Vance trying to stymie Europe by going over to prop up that Vatnik little shít Orban for example and who I really hope the Hungarians can reef him out this weekend with a large enough majority for the opposition to unfúck all the damage he did. Then there's the fuel prices that are gone sky high thanks to Trump going dick first into Iran screwing us all over for the 3rd time in a decade.

    I do like the positive aspects of the US and the culture but the current degenerates are not that and neither are those MAGAts either. Until the more decent parts of the US can run them out of town AND clean up the absolute vile amount of shít they've pulled including meaningful prosecutions and holding the Republican Party responsible for all this shít it's better to just avoid the place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    No just out of spite. I wouldnt spend money there.

    The USA starting a war with Iran for one and the effects for all of us who did nothing. Of course the first thing would be the civilians hurt. But the economic effects for all etc.

    I feel sure they are behind the fuel blockade terrorists. I mean the govt just lowered the duties and they STILL won't stop the blockade and they keep referencing MAGA stuff. And the farmers and hauliers already have subsidised fuel by our taxes. And that was their main goal and they got it! Now the 'protestors (seem more like terrorists to me) say its about Irish oil exploration. And THAT seems to be VERY USA motivated to me. Also they all seem to be pro putin pro maga etc. Lots of them had anti Ukraine posts on their accounts and resent people standing up for palestine. What on earth ukraine has to do with the USA starting a war with Iran i dont know. The whole thing has the stench of pro kremlin pro maga propaganda. Why still protest when the govt gave you all your demands? I feel its outside meddling. Maybe im paranoid. But its happening elsewhere.

    Plus Vance visting Orban. Plus abandoning Ukraine after all the warmongering. Plus Gaza. Plus helping create 'greater Israel'. Plus Iran, Lebanon.

    I am tired of MAGA Americans putting tarrifs and basically making life harder than it needs to be for us.

    Plus creating the recession we will have. Plus why should I spend my money there or do anything positive for the USA? I mean they are obviously trying to meddle negatively in irish politics.

    Nah.

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