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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Warning in Post #8023**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Foo fighters doesn't change the fact other voices is the shittest and most pretentious music show on our planet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,277 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Doesn't explain why Iran is attacking all its neighbours, and has been sponsoring terrorism in the entire region and beyond for decades.

    They fully nationalised their oil in 1979 (they had 50% control before that).

    I haven't seen much profit from the western oil Companies, have any of you

    Do you have a pension fund?

    There's another scenario where we bought oil from the middle east, it became wealthy because it has something we want to buy (probably wealthier than us) and they were pretty happy with the situation and didn't want to disrupt it much.

    Fk sake, have you seen Abu Dhabi, Dubai etc? Making a fortune from those evil Western oil companies, and not making war on their neighbours

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,277 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You don't provide a timeframe for the last paragraph but at independence (100 years ago) that is as would be expected.

    Opinion among the CoI membership liberalised before it did among the RC membership.

    I'm sure you're familiar with Haughey's "Irish solution to an Irish problem". Laughably ridiculous, but even as late as 1979 he was not prepared to take on the RCC on the matter of being permitted to buy a condom or spermicide without prescription.

    Meanwhile the women of Ireland were making their own arrangements one way or the other.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Are You sure they nationalised the oil in 1979? I thought they nationalised it in the 50s with yer man Mossadegh. And the UK and US overthrew the government in 1979 to get it back in control of western oil companies. I thought 1979 was when the west overthrew the government and installed the islamist clerics as supreme leaders of Iran, leading all the way to the current Khomeini fella who took over when his dad was killed a few weeks ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,277 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Jesus H Christ

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Was I wrong about 1979? I don't claim to be an expert in this stuff so I'm open to correction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,277 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Here's a quick overview

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Iran#History

    Y'know, not every time a ruler is overthrown it's the fault of the big bad West…

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭89897


    Oil was nationalised in '51, the US and UK backed coup happened '53 and they took back control of the oil in '54. The revolution in '79 ousted the foreign backed leadership and Iran took back full control of its oil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭Arseboxing


    Your post reads like one of those Israel apologists toasting their legalisation of the murder of Palestinians while trying to preted they're "respectable".

    If you believe in gouging the eyes of prisoners out and inflicting horrific deaths on them you don't beleive in any sort of decent justice system, you're a medieval savage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,253 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Are you going to go off topic on every post you make? Israel want to do this with Palestinians who didnt get a fair trial, im talking about evil people found guilty in a fair trial.

    You might be ok with people who rape and murder children having an easy life in prison but i would rather have a juctice system that actually cares about victims. Calling a person who has never been violent a medievil savage is just plain silly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭Arseboxing


    Lots of people are not violent themselves but are still essentially savages because they support horrific violence being carried out by other people. The vast majority of the population of Nazi Germany did not themselves inflict violence on Jews or other verboten groups. But they were happy for it to happen. And the same is now true of Israel. The majority of the population there that supports the genocide of Palestinians are essentially medieval savages.

    Gouging out prisoners' eyes and inflciting horrific deaths does not equal a system that "cares about victims".

    Also, prisoners do still have fundamental human rights. Unpopular fact there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,253 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Wrong, its simply having empathy for victims. Its perfectly normal for people to have a deep hatred for child murderers and in general we have a very soft justice system. Yes they do and it seems like you care very much about the rights of murderers.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 81,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Mod

    never_ends do not post in this thread again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Palestinian terrorists have always waged war on Israel knowing that when they go to prison that will get out early in a swap with IDF personnel or Israeli citizens.
    This new law will hopefully put some manners on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    I'd ride Ivanka Trump.

    https://www.orourkeda.blog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,277 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's got nothing to do with empathy for victims, it's just blood lust.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,253 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Its very handy then that Israel have thousands of prisoners that have not been convicted on any crime



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,253 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    It has absolutely everything to do with empathy for victims. Been angry about a horrific crime is a perfectly normal feeling. But of course in Ireland some people think its more important to worry about the rights and feelings of rapists and murderers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    How come in any swap deal it’s never one for one?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Yaha Sinwar was sentenced to life imprisonment in 1989. In 2011 he was released with 1000 other terrorists in exchange for one IDF member. Roll on 2023 and he’s instrumental in the mass killing of Jews.

    No release for him this time 🥳👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Maybe. But it's justified.

    3 strikes rule for violent crimes it's a good idea, but only of it's followed by a permanent removal from society, whatever form may that be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,073 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    This is a deliberate tactic of the Israelis, as it points to how they value Palestinians as humans.

    They are basically saying that 1 Israeli is worth 100 or 1000 Palestinians, to demean them as a people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    In 2011 Israel released over 1000 Palestinian terrorists in exchange for one soldier. 280 of these terrorists were serving life sentences.

    I doubt Israel wanted to release any of these specimens but your friends drive a hard bargain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,073 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    They aren't my friends and I dont think the Israelis are that bad at negotiations to only achieve a 1 for 1000 deal.

    Perhaps you need to read a little more about the Middle East to understand the logic of the Israelis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Why do you think that if I read more about a subject that my opinion will change to agree with yours? You don’t know how much I’ve read already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭Arseboxing


    It's precisely nothing to do with empathy for victims and everything to do with you and others who celebrate the horrific murder of prisoners having with a fetish for torture and savagery.

    Those who have a fetish for torture and savgery are the cohort most likely to turn into perpetrators of horrific crimes on children.

    Savagery is regularly perpetrated in the fake name of empathy. Look at the Israelis. They literally carry out their savagery in the name of "victims". They think rape, murder and genocide is "justice". They truly believe that. In reality none of their horrific blood thirsty savagery is bringing any victims back and none of it is about actual victims, it's about indulging a fetish for torture, rape and murder.

    This is all very basic stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 304 ✭✭Mother Shaboobu


    Indeed. Surely a medieval savage was someone from the middle ages who barbarically treated and killed a person or people, even for minor things.

    I don't support anyone torturing anyone though (even if it's deserved) but getting that worked up about words (nobody has actually done anything) in relation to actual murderers and rapists, is totally preposterous.

    Post edited by Mother Shaboobu on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    https://www.orourkeda.blog



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,253 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    In the absolute worse of these crimes the victims should have the right to choose a more severe punishment instead of having to live with the fear that the murderer will one day walk free. Its not savagery when its done to a deeply evil criminal. Your 2nd paragraph is utter shi*e, probably the sillyest thing ever posted on boards. Comparing what Israel do to innocent Palestinian civilians and how people feel about evil people is like comparing a chair to a donkey, utterly nonsensical.



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