General British politics discussion thread

A very loaded statement from Buckingham Palace. Have a close read of the first sentence…….

My interpretation of that first sentence is "The King and Queen have absolutely no interest in going to the US to meet that b*****d but are being forced to do it by Starmer".

The wording is very curious. One would assume that every single royal visit abroad by the monarch takes place on the advice of the British government….surely no need to state it in a tweet.

Also, David Dimbleby, a close friend and confidant of Charles, was on BBC Newsnight last night saying this visit should not be going ahead under any circumstances.

I suspect that's what it is. There was never any chance of the visit being cancelled, rightly or wrongly.

I've no idea, I don't follow his Twitter account. I'm just agreeing with a suggestion that it may be a standard formula they use.

Here's a little bit more evidence that perhaps the party didn't end up with a particularly good candidate in this instance, whether she knew what her husband was up to or not.

I'd still go with my theory. One can only imagine that Charles is mortified at having to visit Trump in the middle of a war and when Trump is slagging off the UK and the British military on a daily basis (he and Hegseth have had a few digs at the British army and the Royal Navy in recent weeks). As Dimbleby says, the optics of this are terrible and he is probably galled at the prospect of being used as a propaganda tool to boost Trump.

If the visit goes ahead, it's going to be awkward in the extreme. Looks like the war will still be in full swing when KC meets Trump. One wonders why the trip wasn't postponed once it was realised the US was effectively now in a state of war with Iran.

"Why now?" is certainly the question that should getting asked (and answered). It's such a peculiar move, but doubly so after all of the invective that has been thrown Britain's way from Trump and his entourage. Is the British establishment really that short of a convincing yarn to excuse themselves from this embarrassment?

I would imagine the British establishment is holding its nose at this visit, but it is more or less the same as Martin giving Trump his bowl of shamrock. You keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Keep doing the polite diplomatic things (Heads of state visiting are one country visiting another, not a personal visit between friends) and leave Trump to the name calling and childish behavior.
just as Martin wouldn’t let Trump slag off Starmer, I can’t see Charlie letting him do it either.
I would love to see Charles go off script and tell him what he thinks, he is no fool and doesn’t tolerate them either.

Oh dear, another one. I seem to recall this sort of remark did for a GOP senator in the States too, in a learned intervention on the cost of healthcare.

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It's up to the media to nip that shite in the bud and if necessary get aggressive with cunts like Farage. He if responds with nonsense like the above he should be told flat out that that wasn't what was asked of him and he should answer the basic question that was put to him. People aren't interested in his waffling.

Trump is only able to get away with that kind of crap because the media over there is weak and useless and Americans have handed him and his clown show the keys to the kingdom, so he effectively gets to dictate to everyone and ignore who he can't answer.

The UK absolutely cannot allow that to happen.

I doubt anyone is all that surprised though. Just before the election, I was listening to Farage on LBC and Nick Ferrari was tearing in to him about the number of Reform candidates that were Facebook friends with the leader of the British faacist party and Farage pulled the same trick there, avoided the question, tried to change the topic etc, but Ferrari was having none of it and Farage ended up looking like a complete idiot.