US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

Ozymandius2011 · 31-03-2026 09:37PM

Trump has just posted a rant telling the UK to go get it's own oil from Hormuz or buy it from the US. Says 'we won't be there for you just like you weren't there for us".

patnor1011 · 31-03-2026 09:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124353892#Comment_124353892

You cant read? Or maybe problems to comprehend what you read or just maybe what you do here constantly twisting and changing everything to suit your narrative.

Iran didnt declare that they will kill civilians.

Iran gave advance warning to civilians to stay away from intended targets.

patnor1011 · 31-03-2026 10:00PM

There is a way to sanction Israel. Politicians wont do it but remember when not that long ago there was a talk about boycott of Israeli goods and services? Israel got knickers in a twist going on PR offensive about antisemitism and whatnot.

Israel is dependant on export. Make their products undesirable and they will feel it big time in a short while. Yes USA support them but if whole world reject Israeli exports every war will stop like magic.

Akrasia · 31-03-2026 10:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124353269#Comment_124353269

Oh my god.

You think the best way out of this is to double down on something that is almost certainly impossible and will only lead to another generational quagmire that ends up costing millions of lives and countless more lives destroyed needlessly.

Another Galipoli. Arrogant military leaders who ignore the best strategic advice and attempt an impossible mission against a fortress where the defensive side have all of the terrain, an effectively limitless supply of weapons and soldiers to use them, and where the escalation chain will result in massive devastation across the entire region with a very very real chance that it will spill over into a world war.

America cannot 'force the straits open' It cannot be done. Not with the resources available to them.

What Trump needs to do is declare victory, go home, and if Israel still insist on attacking Lebanon and committing genocide in Gaza, leave them to defend themselves and refuse to continue to get sucked into Netenyahu's murderous campaign.

Iran will insist on the gulf nations dismantling US bases, Trump can pretend that he doesn't want them anymore anyway.

Iran will have won this 'excursion' and will be stronger afterwards. But that outcome is the best we can hope for now.

You cannot bring yourself to ever accept that you are working for a commander in chief who is a mad king and none of his orders should be viewed as legitimate. They're all ILLEGAL under your own consitution. You ask 'what now'

If you had any honour, you would resign your post, refuse to follow Hegseth and Trump and the other psychopaths into their crusade that can only lead to total failure, economically, politically and militarily.

Or will you be saying 'we are where we are' while hunkered up in a nuclear fallout shelter somewhere pretending that you did nothing wrong and your fellow military commanders were only ever following 'lawful orders' the entire time.

ILoveYourVibes · 31-03-2026 10:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354493#Comment_124354493

Israel Iran sometimes even Ukraine form a part of political strategy for many people.

Its not about helping those countries. Or to attack their enemies.

The purpose of certain narratives for western politicians isnt to attack Hamas or Russia or Iran its to use these to attack their political opposition which is usually the left.

There are many accounts that don't care about Israel but simply use it to attack the left. There are many NAFO fellas who don't really want to attack russia but use Ukraine to attack the left.

And of course you could say that the left does the same with regards to Gaza or Sudan.

Sometimes the point of the left isnt to put sanctions on israel its to use it to attack the right. The right does the same with Ukraine and sanctions on Russia. Europe partic Germany is still using russian oil. So evading sanctions on Russia. But they use Ukraine to attack the left.

These things are often used for political gain. Im not doubting many are genuine but clearly many are not. People see through it and lose hope for movements its why you see the cynicism.

Sanctions or the concept of them as a political movement are often simply a tool one party uses to bash the other. They dont care so much about actually using them.

ILoveYourVibes · 31-03-2026 10:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354541#Comment_124354541

I understand your frustration but ignoring WW3 will not make it go away.

I agree with you though about the straits I don't think Europe and the USA together could force the straits open. I mean if Iran used sea mines how would they even go about that? Insurance would be crazy!

People keep saying Iran should not block civilian ships or bomb civilian ships. Or USA that .. Russia this its becoming nothing but a tool for political parties to bash their opposition with.

The right bashes the left with Russia /Ukraine screaming tankies or russian bots and the Left is bashing the right with the middle east.

Both are right of course. But the politicians are still more motivated use this simply to beat the opposition than to solve the issue.

Normal people are fatigued with all these wars ALL of them. They want a normal life. They are tired of people using ukraine or gaza or Israel for political gain. They want an end.

Americans and europeans see through those who accuse their opposition of not supporting Israel enough and those who accuse their opposition of not supporting Ukraine enough. They are extremely cynical about it all and they just want normal lives.

If the same people who give out about the opposition not supporting ukraine enough or gaza enough actually gave that support we would get somewhere. Its just a political game.

I see this happening with Iran now.

Akrasia · 31-03-2026 10:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124353668#Comment_124353668

Iran don't need Nukes to wipe out their neighbours, Destroying all of the desalination plants, striking all of the oil fields and infrastructure with conventional weapons would be enough to make much of the region practically uninhabitable. Most of the Gulf states would run out of water in days to weeks without emergency repairs, which would take longer than weeks.

But Iran are not the ones looking to destroy their neighbours. Israel attacked Iran's desalination plant first before Iran attacked any water infrastructure anywhere else. Israel attacked Iran's Oil infrastructure first, before Iran attacked any of their neighbours, Israel attacked Iran's Nuclear facilities first before Iran targetted Israel's nuclear site.

It is clear who the unhinged party to this war is, Israel may go to far and Iran might just decide that they need to match that escalation as their only hope for even a meagre survival.

Iran might not be able to destroy Israel directly, but they can destroy the US allies in the region, and then Israel will be destroyed in the following wars and instability, and if they lose the support of the US and Europe, they will be overwhelmed (and justifiably so)

Akrasia · 31-03-2026 10:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124353925#Comment_124353925

Iran and UAE don't like each other already, UAE are Sunni, Iran are Shia. They are aligned to opposing world powers. They traded with each other but they were never friends

UAE can confiscate Iranian 'assets' but those are the private wealth assets of wealthy Iranian individuals and companies held within the UAE. In the case of an Iranian existential crisis, losing access to property portfolios held in another territory is not going to be their biggest priority. those will be written off, or simply destroyed so they cannot be used to enrich their enemies.

Akrasia · 31-03-2026 11:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354039#Comment_124354039

They only went to 60% when Trump broke the JCPOA

Before this, they fully complied with the inspection program and there was zero evidence of enriching to anywhere near 60%

Lets be fair. Why should Iran honour its side of an agreement that the other side unilaterally ripped up?

Akrasia · 31-03-2026 11:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354087#Comment_124354087

The Israeli people themselves should stop them. If the Irish government did even 1% of what the Israeli government are doing to **** up the world, I'd be out every single day on a general strike to bring down the government.

amandstu · 31-03-2026 11:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354687#Comment_124354687

A good point.This seems to be a war where,if possible it was best that all 3 sides were to lose.

It looks ,to this observer that the Iranian regime is actually the winner (not the Iranian people,of course)

2 out of 3 ain't so bad...

Akrasia · 31-03-2026 11:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354234#Comment_124354234

In the medium term, there would be an agreement reached. That's how international diplomacy is supposed to work, not just might is right

dmcdona · 31-03-2026 11:11PM

@Akrasia

Spot on.

Regime change for Israel

.Donegal. · 31-03-2026 11:12PM

Trump says his illegal war will be over in 2 or 3 weeks and that there has already been regime change. Utter shite as usual.

Cluedo Monopoly · 31-03-2026 11:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354692#Comment_124354692

They have done an amazing job of dehumanising Palestinians and other Muslims so the Israeli people don't seem to care. Look at the death penalty legislation they celebrated yesterday.

Loafing Oaf · 31-03-2026 11:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354377#Comment_124354377

For the Gulf Arab states much more than for the Americans or even Israel it's a case of "come at the Iranian regime, best not miss"…

Akrasia · 31-03-2026 11:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354699#Comment_124354699

This really is the only good outcome of this scenario. Regime change in Israel, Trump retreats to pretend he won,

Or, regime change in both the US and Israel (Netanyahu gets replaced in Israel and Trump loses comprehensively in the Mid terms and gets 25th amendmented and replaced by a chastised and lame duck Vance)

A Dub in Glasgo · 31-03-2026 11:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354692#Comment_124354692

Demonstrably, they are a sick and depraved society

Akrasia · 01-04-2026 12:25AM

I built a simulation for this 'war' that models the different actions and decisions from each faction
Try to end the war peacefully. Its much much harder than you think

War of Choice is a turn-based simulation set during the 2026 US/Israel strikes on Iran. You pick a faction — USA, Iran, Israel, or one of 10 others — and make decisions, playing all sides, that shape how the conflict plays out. Each turn you play action cards (launch strikes, broker deals, sanction enemies, etc.) while AI controls the other factions. History starts real but your choices create divergence points where things go off-script. There are two start d)ates: Day 1 (Feb 28) or one month in (April 1). You win by managing your faction's goals — military, diplomatic, and public opinion — while avoiding nuclear apocalypse. Just pick a faction (choose a new faction each turn, and start making bad decisions.

https://ww3.gamer.gd/

Still a work in progress and will update it as things change

yagan · 01-04-2026 12:31AM

Trump is taking the off ramp regardless of what happens in the region.

So now both Israel and Saudi arabia have reason to assassinate Trump to keep the USA committed to their protection.

He's betraying them, and I as I kept saying he will start openly blaming Israel soon.

cj maxx · 01-04-2026 12:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354815#Comment_124354815

Sounds good

Akrasia · 01-04-2026 12:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354822#Comment_124354822

Trump will try to take the off ramp. Iran will not play ball and Trump will have to choose between cutting out all of the gulf allies and losing all US military capacity in the region, or doubling down

Similarly with Israel. If Iran don't accept America withdrawing as a reason to stop attacking israel, Trump will have to choose between dumping Israel, or continuing the war

Trump is a very weak and self obsessed man. nobody can predict what he will do as he is so easy to manipulate from all directions (like a piece of fluff blowing in the breeze)

smurfjed · 01-04-2026 03:53AM

@Akrasia ”Iran don't need Nukes to wipe out their neighbours, Destroying all of the desalination plants, striking all of the oil fields and infrastructure with conventional weapons would be enough to make much of the region practically uninhabitable.”…..

Well considering the 1000’s of ballistic missiles fired at their neighbours so far, this hasn’t worked.

smurfjed · 01-04-2026 03:54AM

@Akrasia “UAE can confiscate Iranian 'assets' but those are the private wealth assets of wealthy Iranian individuals and companies held within the UAE. In the case of an Iranian existential crisis, losing access to property portfolios held in another territory is not going to be their biggest priority. those will be written off, or simply destroyed so they cannot be used to enrich their enemies”

Apparently not all is private wealth, a lot if IRGC wealth used to launder money for their proxies, so it will have an impact.

somenergy · 01-04-2026 05:21AM

Israelis continues invade Lebanon a plan to annex up to the lataney river, while america exits its failed Iranian adventure.

The gulf states have lost access to the strait it will open but iran will demands reparations and all aseets remain unrestricted.

Hugh reputational damage to US states may restrict liciences to us oil companies.

sock.rocker* · 01-04-2026 05:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124354881#Comment_124354881

Is this actual stupidity or feigned ignorance? Iran has not tried to do these things.

Like I'm completely serious. Are you just pretending that they have tried to destroy all of the desalination plants etc. around the Gulf and Israel or do you 100% believe they have been trying to do this and have simply failed in their mission?

It must be one of the two.

StarryPlough01 · 01-04-2026 06:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124352292#Comment_124352292

When confident, intelligent women in politics are reduced to words like "hag," it’s a classic way to dismiss and sideline them.

If you disagree with Clare Daly, engage with her substantive points about Ursula von der Leyen in constructive discourse, otherwise it looks like deflection from Clare's actual arguments because you can’t refute them. Just saying.