US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

No genocide is right, including the one Israel is committing in Gaza, or the one it's gearing up to commit in Lebanon. But no one in the West seems to be doing anything about it, apart from being 'deeply concerned' (see today's comment on the apartheid law to mass execute Palastinians in Gaza and the West Bank). America's extreme religious fundamentalist (see Hegseth's comments today) Trump regime is in the wrong and all of Europe should be aligning against it and Israel.

Once the US is gone home to rearm, you can guarantee that Iran will quickly acquire the bomb. If their nuclear infrastructure is gone, I'm sure someone will be happy to sell them a few. They would be stupid not to. Finally Israel got it right - 'Iran is just a few weeks from acquiring a nuke' - thanks to Israel.

I cant see Europeans or any other parties going near Hormuz with their fleets. If America does leave the region without any sort of negotiated solution or Hormuz still blocked they have just left Iran economically better off. Really USA have damaged their reputation with this folly.

The notion of "national government"ala the UK model of WW2 or even rainbow coalition is fundamentally impossible within the US political system.
Not just because it's a 2 party system but also, even the ascendant party quickly becomes irrelevant when the Executive function and operation of government just ignores the legislature.
Trump isnt just nominally acting as a Monarch, he is pushing the Unitary Executive Theory to its extreme limits.

**Edit**
Just to add regarding the wider possibility of an International coalition willing to negotiate an end to the Gulf, rather than just US politics.
The US has descended to a level of mistrust and perfidy that it will take years post Trump to recover from.
You cannot expect nations who have witnessed the actions of US re: Ukraine, Greenland, Venezuela, Iran and ongoing efforts against Cuba & Ecuador to put any faith in any guarantee or promise offered by the US or indeed Israel.

They and their actions have placed themselves very much in the Rogue State category.
There can be coalition without a degree of confidence in the positions of ones partners, if not their long term aims.
Trump shifts policies and positions faster than a crack whore trying to finish of a John before their next tweek.
Untrustworthy, perfidious and treacherous.

They are already talking about leaving non proliferation treaty because it does not provide the protections that it should. Twice been attacked by 2 nuclear armed states, 6 attacks on nuclear facilities to date and the IAEA has never condemned the attacks in any of them yet.

Even at the UN most countries stood silent and said nothing. Given no one say's anything about Israel having nuclear weapons for decades what is the point, may as well do the same as they do. Build nukes and pretend they don't have them.

Only twice? As opposed to being physically invaded and quarter of a country occupied by a nuclear armed state committing genocide, since 2012, a state that promised security guarantees

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Why would Europe get involved in this clusterf**k?

Only about 3-4 million barrels to Europe came from Gulf, they can switch to Saudi west coast where the pipeline is already at 7-8 million barrels

It’s the Asian countries and China who imported vast majority of Gulf oil and having all the fun now

I'm not sure 'the West' will even exist in a recognisable form going forward. The US seems to have gone off on its own right wing authoritarian tangent - that will leave just the likes of the EU, Canada, Australia, Japan etc. Must be slowly dawning on everyone too that the violent terrorist entity known as Israel is now a severe liability and is not an ally of any liberal democracy in the West.

Think they will need cast iron guarantees that it won't be repeated. Although how do you trust either the US or israel. How do they even enter negotiations when both also use that platform as a means to murder the negotiating team

The fascist meat heads of the US administration like Trump and Hegseth can't accept or cope with the fact that their Michael Bay style bombing of Iran isn't yielding strategic results. Yes they've done massive damage to Iran, but they're failing in their strategic objectives and are arguably worse off strategically than before the war with the strait closed.

Their bases across the region damaged, planes lost , decades of patriot and thaad missiles expended in weeks. Allies deserting them.

They can't handle it so now they're lashing out at the Europeans and nato and blaming everyone else bar themselves and their puppet masters Israel.

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Any comments on which countries in the “west” you propose “intervene” and why don’t the “east” intervene since they get majority of their resources from this region unlike the “west”

You have quite the obsession with "the left", seems to cloud your judgement.

You don’t see the inherent contradictions in

• not wanting any military spend or military alliances from one side of your mouth
• wanting interventions in various wars out of the other side of your mouth

and the hypocrisy of this

I’m specifically talking about the far left

I’ve no issues with some center left policies, plenty of them in this country and they grand

But the anti defence, anti NATO, anti EU (see previous page) stance is in direct contradiction with wanting “interventions” and “the west is disgusting” self flagellation

Especially when the same people are actively arguing earlier in thread against respecting neutrality of countries or supporting attacks on civilians, or for that matter the concept of international laws and institutions