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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    The orange moron is on his social media platform having a tantrum again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,285 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Of course, the UK is actively involved in the war therefore Iran will not allow the UK get a ship past the strait



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I read somewhere that Europe only gets 7% of its oil from the middle east. Not sure if that is true. But has trump heard?

    He keeps going on about how the USA doesnt need middle east oil. But we know its not about ordinary people and the pumps its about profit and US oil companies isnt it trump?

    Hasn't he heard tho? Iran said spain could put its ships through the straits because of what sanchez said then well its in the EU market if ONE EU countries can get ships in that is the EU sorted. Or am I stupid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,891 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    The USA doesn't get much of their oil through the strait anymore. It's mostly Asian countries (80%+ of it) like China, Japan, India, Korea Rep, Philippines etc

    It's effectively been close for weeks now by Iran



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭Firstsub


    Trump in a Truth Social post stated that the EU and UK can get oil in 2 ways.

    1. Buy oil from the US
    2. Open up the Straits themselves. These countries particularly the UK have not helped the US attack so the US will not be there to help in opening the Straits

    The latter point is totally at variance with Trump's post yesterday that he would obliterate energy infrastructure and desalination plants if the Straits were not open



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    First press conference in ~2 weeks starting shortly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭yagan


    Well if Trump is telling the USA's former allies to go get their own oil then he's effectively undermining the exorbitant privilege that the USD has enjoyed since the end of WWII.

    Nearly all the GCC members have adopted currency swaps with China as is so I'd imagine those permission payments to pass the strait will not be made in USD.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    If the petrodollar collapsed, it would be the event of the century.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Still early days, we have to wait for the new leader to come out from the 40 days of mourning period, also the funeral will need to be arranged and carried out at some point. After that they will announce what plans they have for the war and other things.

    Only human after all, lost both his parents, wife, daughter and other members while negotiations were underway, bound to be in a bit of a state after going through that, who wouldn't be.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭weisses




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    That would be a move i would support

    but think back to previous EU referendums here {such a change probably require another one here} where every single left wing party and especially Sinn Fein screamed murder about Ireland losing its veto or even indirectly giving up too much power to EU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,969 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's not much good for countries being allowed through the strait if there's no cargo to collect. Worse than the strait being closed is the amount of energy sources being forced offline by Iranian missiles and drones in retaliation. You can't just start those things back up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Iran would be foolish to go for a ceasefire that does nothing in their favour.

    A return to the status quo would be a poor result for the death/destruction theyve had inflicted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    It's getting to the point where maybe someone should have another pop at him. The guy is a deranged fool and is dragging everyone down with him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Is Trump's threat to destroy oil production in Iran morphing into an attempt to shift the blame onto other countries and to force them to clean up after his mess?

    Does he want to say to his voters that it was Europe and Nato's fault the oil price and inflation is going up ?

    An early withdrawal may mean no more body bags too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Italy also blocking US warplanes https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/mar/31/europe-ukraine-bucha-eu-russia-hungary-iran-denmark-latest-news-updates

    This is how you get your oil through Hormuz, unless of course, having deliberately closed the strait to stop Europe getting supplies, Trump starts bombing those supplies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,891 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    How many ships have they gotten through?

    There's something like 1,900 stranded right now in the region



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    You have to ask? 😀

    I’m pretty much convinced this whole exercise was to disrupt oil supply on a worldwide scale and make America look good and powerful - there are few other logical explanations that fit.

    Trump has any number of experienced military advisers at his disposal - all of this would have been foreseen - dumping on UK and Europe over the last week was just the MAGA playbook in action - it’s so fcking predictable at this point - I just hope European leaders loudly express their dissatisfaction and call it as it is- Trumps and Americas mess



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    It does everything in their favour it stops the bombs reigning down on them. Look at the deaths inflicted in lebanon and in iran? their whole regime at the top.

    They would do well to agree.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Ten so far today. But on second attempts only. But what's happening is ships are updating their origin as china. Ships can fly under any flag. But i think they pay a fee to china and goes as maritime export or something?

    https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2026/0325/china-ships-strait-of-hormuz-iran-partnership

    But you are right many are stranded.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Honestly, the 'status quo' I think would be quite an improvement in their position.

    They will have 'proven' that they can conduct economic blackmail on the world, that they can bend much of the world to its will. They won't actually have proven it, as the US would have quit early, and the rest of the world wouldn't have tried to stop them, but it will absolutely be the perceived wisdom for most of the world's population. They will redouble their efforts in asymetric warfare, you can bet that Hezbullah and Houthis both will be better supported in future, so their positions against Israel and Saudi will be at least no worse off if not better. Their conventional military capability is effectively gone as is their ability to rebuild it in the near or mid-term future, but that was never their strength to begin with.

    To that extent, I think it's politically necessary for the US (and, honestly, Europe) to force open the straits and show that Iran's strongest hand isn't as strong as they think it is. Europe doesn't need to get involved in the offensive against Iran, but conducting defensive operations to escort ships through Omani and UAE waters would be well within their remit and is within precedent of the Tanker War of the 1980s. The straits can be forced, I would argue they should be forced, the question is whether there is the will to expend the time, money and people to do it. And I suspect not.

    So instead of acheiving some better form of stability in the area (Whatever about Iran, they cannot be accused of being a stabilising force) quitting at this point now that it's been started is probably just going to make matters worse overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I think the point is that they CANNOT open the straits or gain control of it rather as to whether its closed completely is confusing. They can't even close the skies over Israel. Which is TINY.

    They point is whatever they want to do they cannot. They dont have the ability. The USA now looks very weak.

    Now maybe Iran will topple in a few weeks I dont know.

    But the point is THEY CANNOT open it. Or gain control here.

    There have been differing reports some say some ships are allowed in which would indicate some diplomatic efforts are working and that the world or the west still has some control.

    Some say over 1000 ships are stranded which would indicate the USA has lost complete control and is reduced to begging for help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    It's not a ceasefire. It's surrender. And Israel will continue bombing well after US have left the arena with another pretend middle east 'ceasefire/peace deal'. This is existentialist and Iran knows it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I dont think it is possible to open the straits without having boots on the ground and that warships would not be able to protect cargo ships the way the Americans have suggested (but not actually done themselves).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    They have boots on the ground and are sending more. Its going to be a blood bath. reports are of 150 american casualties already i dont know about the iranian side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    If you think back to the situation just five weeks ago, you will realise that your post just proves why this whole military adventure is so stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Well then if that is true Iran thinks its fighting for its survival and its seen what israel is doing to people in gaza and lebanon its likely that the iranians fear they will be genocided too.

    Its all terrifying. If you were fighting against your own genocide just think how hard you would fight.

    I don't believe genocide of iranians is right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Here is a novel idea, instead of insisting Europe joins the party of blowing the shít out of everyone and having to fix an absolute clusterfúck the Dotard and his Ghouls created.

    Why not get everyone around table and talk out a solution, because that is in effect the only real solution.

    Obviously we don't need to invite the artificially tanned one, he can continue talking to some umbrellas or whoever he has been talking to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    "They will have 'proven' that they can conduct economic blackmail on the world, that they can bend much of the world to its will."

    Oh the irony. Americans need to take a good long look in the mirror.



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