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EV Which one ???

  • 29-03-2026 11:54AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭


    Guys , couple of questions , am at last changing my DS5 to electric, not doing enough milage probably 200km a week tops.

    Looking at Leaf, Ionic and 2008, C4 ,also looked at Mazda but the door set up is off putting , looking at around 2022-24 wont be changing for long time if ever..

    Have no home charger ,any thoughts really appreciarted , also was looking at private sale of my own and importing from NI ?

    What would you guys recommend, looked at Duster but not a fan and charge point in front is not great if you had a tip . Have had ID4 and Nero hybrid as company cars in last few years, but ID4 is too expensive for what we need and was only getting about 50km on Nero battery and had problems with 12v battery a few times, not sure if it even was 12v as AA guys said they were way too small.

    TIA



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    Budget?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    If all your charging will be at home and your mileage is low, then a 40kWh Leaf will probably suit you most and will be best value for money. Negatives will be the CHAdeMO charger for long distance driving. There's far fewer of them than the CCS chargers and they charge at half the speed of most others when fast charging. Aside from that and Nissan being sh!theads, the cars are pretty solid. Much better than all the stellantis sh!te.

    If you're looking at spending a bit more, you'll pick up a Tesla Model 3 2022/23 for around €20k and range will not be an issue at around 400km and great efficiency and a great charging network you'll rarely use anyway.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    If you’re only doing 200Km a week, I’d go with an e-Golf in Executive spec or an Ioniq 28/38.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Have you a charger at work?

    With public charging close on ICE costs, what’s the main reason for going EV? Environmental?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,109 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Stay away from the leaf. It uses a Japanese charging standard. You need to stick to cars which use CCS



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭Pat734


    Why not put in a home charger, makes sense if you're going electric? People might not consider this, but it will add to the value of your property as well should you want to sell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,265 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Can ya not buy a converter that goes from chademo to CCS for €800?
    limited to 250A (75kw max speed) I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,109 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    why bother when you can get a car with CCS.
    not sure I’d other buying a car and the spending €800+ yo buy an adopter that may fail



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Magilla Gorilla


    We have an MG4. 64 kWh battery model from 2024. It’s comfortable, simple to drive and the finish is very good, if not quite German standard. Some wind noise on the drivers side is the biggest issue.

    Home charger installed which I think is a must.


    Range varies depending on outside temperature when charging and driving styles of course

    I have driven from mid Kildare to Galway and back without recharging. Just been to Clonakilty this week and got there with 27% battery remaining- 261km distance. Drove a bit faster coming home and had 20% remaining on return.
    On the road charging is expensive so I only do it on trips such as these.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Uninformed advice.

    Yes, they can be got for less, but I don't think most people would see any value with the adapter, as there is little to no need.

    Because the Leaf is great value for money and largely because most people poo-poo them for being CHAdeMO. The OP has said their mileage is around 200km per week. Unless they do regular long distance, then a 40kWh Leaf is perfect and they won't need CHAdeMO, or CCS. Why spend thousands more on an equivalent, or crappier car just because it has a charging port you'll probably never use?

    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    So you’re doing 9,600 kms per annum- so that’s approx 12-14 full tanks a year- so maybe 1100-1300 euro on diesel per annum.

    A home charger installed will cost you between 900 and 1200 (after grant payment) .

    With home charging, you’ll save approx 67% of your annual fuel costs. You would be hoping that you’ll also save a bit on annual servicing assuming you buy an EV with no work required- ie tyres, brakes, suspension all good for another few years.

    And maybe tax might be cheaper depending on current cost vs 120 for an EV.

    So certainly some potential savings to be made after you account for the charger costs in year 1.

    If you’re thinking “long term” as you’ve mentioned, then you need to assess if your annual milage will increase- change of job? More travel outside of your county? Ie what might change over coming years?


    A low range car will likely annoy you long term -I’d try and stretch it to a longer range car if possible - consider ID3 or my preference over the ID3- Cupra Born- and obviously test drive all of these which will help the process of elimination- for example I test drove a Citroen eC4 a few years ago and couldn’t wait to get out of it 😀- I sat in one of the earlier ID3’s and again, that was enough for me. If you’re gonna be keeping it long term, you’re gonna have to love it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭sham58107


    Thanks guys for all the comments, am only on here once or twice a day. few answers to your questions budget not more than 20k ,I am now retired and do a volenteer role about once a week, and there is charger there, Leaf seems very well speced for price, am I overlooking something ?

    Do a long 200 km drive maybe once a month but chargers there, and looking at home charger in summer .

    Reason to change is not enviroment ,just my mechanic say diesel is not getting enough milage to make it economical and with 140k on the clock will start costing money . Just dropping grandkids to school 2 days a week total 30km each day.

    Dont really like the tesla to be honest. Not really thinking of changing for good few years if at all. Is trade in better

    Again thank for replys .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    A standard charger will likely only give you about 40kms per hour of charge- so you’ll need to be parked up at that charger for a number of hours- just FYI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,265 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    OP If a small simple almost new car will do you then there is nothing wrong with a Dacia Spring,

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/dacia-spring-all-electric/41003838

    This is a 2026 car.

    If you want some with more comfort and class however

    Maybe a Renault Megane E-Tech

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megane-e-tech-ev60-220hp-techno-red-blac/41407405

    Its a bit older a few years but classy with a great operating system the best in class actually and look great.

    Just over your budget.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    A 40kWh Leaf would be ideal then with the only issue being the 200km trip (assuming 400km round trip?). If there is a charger there, it will charge at around 6kW/h, so you would need to be there a full day to get the battery full again, or use a rapid charger on the route home to get you there. A 60kWh Leaf will also be in the price range.

    Honestly, a Tesla Model 3 will get you there and back. Shame you don’t like them. Worth test driving a couple of cars either way.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,109 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    a second hand id3 would be abetted option. The Spring is very small and kids and car seats and all their baggage would be an issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭mr chips


    As Ghost says, it looks like a Leaf will meet all the needs you've laid out. One thing I noticed is that you used to drive a hybrid Niro - I have the full EV equivalent, and I'm very happy with it. No issues with the 12v battery so long as you don't switch off the car and then sit in it for ages without having opened the driver's door - if you do that, the car doesn't shut down completely but it stops keeping the 12v topped up from the main battery. On the motorway, mine easily does 400km from spring through to autumn, down to around 350-360km in winter once temperatures are below 7-8 degrees. Kia provide a full 7-year warranty on the whole car, not just the traction battery, so you could look at whether e.g. a 4 year old model which has already done the bulk of its depreciating is within budget, safe in the knowledge that you've still got 3 years of warranty left, which is all that some manufacturers offer from new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,265 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Or as I mentioned the Renault Megane E-Tech is better still.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭kerten


    I suggest buying a used kia niro ev as new as possible within your budget to benefit from 7 years warranty they offer on the car. If budget is limited, you really don't want to pay from pocket if an EV is broken and not under warranty. EVs has lower probability of having issues but when they have issues, they are costly to address.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Since you do such low mileage, you could take a chance on a relatively new but high mileage car, maybe about 4 years old just after it's first NCT with an independent battery health check. When you come to sell it in a couple of years, it'll be back on average miles.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    What you really want from a car is a manufacturer that wants to see EVs become a success. A pure-EV company if you will. Imagine buying a car only to hear news the following day that the manufacturer is scaling back or completely stopping their EV production lines



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    If it's just a case of diesel not suiting short journeys.

    A Toyota Hybrid might suit.

    The potential issues I see with charging at the place you volunteer at are the following.

    1) most likely a slow charger like 7 kw charging.

    2) your time there may not be enough to add the charge you want for the week.

    3) you may arrive there and someone else is on the charger that day.

    To put this into some context.

    A 40 kwh Leaf would need 6 hours or thereabouts to go from 0 to 100 percent on a 7 kw charger.

    Meaning you'd need to use other chargers that might be available on your journey routes.

    A Hybrid will do the job fine i think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    I missed the bit about looking at the home charger in summer.

    Had assumed you were looking at charging at the place you volunteer because of "can't charge at home".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭sham58107


    Hey guys , thanks for all replies really appreciate your time,the place I volenteer, car would usually be there for over 7 hours and yes they are 7kw used for ambulances, so never full.

    just a final question, how do I check battery health .

    Again really appreciate your time

    thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭sham58107


    Hey guys , thanks for all replies really appreciate your time,the place I volenteer, car would usually be there for over 7 hours and yes they are 7kw used for ambulances, so never full.

    just a final question, how do I check battery health .

    Again really appreciate your time

    thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    For battery health, most common way is with an OBD dongle and an App dependent on the vehicle type. For a Leaf for example, most owners would use Leafspy. You can get it done professionally for a fee with companies like AVILOO, NVD are one of their agents in Ireland. You can also learn how to approximate it yourself, TeslaBjorn on YouTube has done some videos with some used EV’s over the years. Example below.



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