US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

Looks in mirror sees slavic cheekbones.

You got me.

Sure Irish people love Israel. You would be wrong actually only 2 % of the Irish population have dual citizenship. In Israel its like 30 %.

You keep resorting to ad hominem tho. Where Im from should have no bearing on what you think of my point.

Trump could end up in the hague. Why would they openly say this? Unless they dont intend to do it or something? It will also hurt the allies of the USA the gulf states also use those same facilities. This insane and going to hurt the health of millions of arabs too. It would prob even hurt israel..

Rubio is changing the objectives. Gone are regime change, unconditional surrender, depletion of Iran's uranium. Rubio making it up as the US may not be able to reach its original objectives

”Trump can endup in The Hague”

That be great, hopefully alongside Putin and Netanyahu too

I stand corrected (I've lived here for ages but still not too familiar with the political system :p ) but claiming she is not democratically elected just seemed wrong hence my reply. She might not be elected directly by the people, but she is elected by those that the people voted for.

Question how long do we really think trump will keep up with this war without looking for the off ramp?

There are hundreds of US casualties already. We all know the Dems will not continue it so Iran just has to hold out for like 2 yrs.

She is not elected. The reason for this is the way EU groups function and the voting mechanism through the groups and heads of state.

People don't know which groups their MEPS will join before they go. Its weird I know. We dont know who the european council is going to suggest.

We know who is the leader of FF is or FG before an election. We dont know the candidates for the presidency before we select MEPs. We dont even know what groups they will join. The heads of state dont consult with the people who they will propose before they get elected in their own countries.

This level of secrecy i would suggest is counter productive and anti democratic.

It should be required for MEPs to tell us which groups they will join. It should be required for Heads of state to tell us which candidates they will propose and the EU groups and Meps should say who they will vote for.

There's talk now that Trump is in such a bind that there will be no off ramp. He will just announce 'the war is over', the Strait of Hormuz will still be closed and goodness knows what will happen after that.

I saw one analyst saying today that Trump is in highly uncharted waters (for him). He has come up against a powerful opponent he can't defeat, can't pay off or bribe, can't con them into climbing down etc. He hasn't got a clue what the hell to do in this instance and no outcome is a good one for him.

Sir Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the second Supreme Leader of Iran, ruled for approximately 36 years and 8 months.

To whom are you referrring? Is it Putin? Ah yes. I dont think I would like to be ruled by him but are you not making a false equivalence? But you do seem a little obsessed with Russia /Ukraine. That is the other thread Sir respectfully.

I am also certain Putin and his regime are not relevant to a dicussion about the EU and its mechanisms. Its a bit of a red herring fallacy. Or at the very least a false equivalence.

Also you seem to be reading my desire to see a more democratic EU to be support of an undemocrative regime in Russia. But surely my support of Democracy in Europe would in fact indicate I do support democracy everywhere? Whereas you seem to suggest well its good enough. Perhaps if you lived in Russia you might say that too?

How do you think they ended up with Putin? They kept letting it slide.

You keep trying to hit a target that supports Putin in me. And that is why you keep missing. I am not standing there. I dont support Putin or Russia at all.

A ceasefire I would think. I dont believe Iran's conditions I am calling their bluff I think they would buckle to a ceasfire.

Iran is certainly stronger than we all thought. But I dont think they want to lose support of the people in the gulf states a lot of their propaganda would suggest they think public opinion internationally is very important.

There some seem to be something of stunned bunny in the headlights about Trump at the moment.

Last April China literally trumped his tariffs and he knew they had him beat so he deescalated and they followed as it suited them. But he has given Iran no off ramp to deescalate from their side.

All this talk about positive negotiations with the Iranian regime is probably just with the Israeli sponsored ready to go Pahlavi III. In Trump's addled mind this probably means he's already disengaging with the complexity of the situation.

I still think he will ultimately blame Israel, but only after he's moved onto his next big distraction, probably Cuba.

It might be in their interest to keep the Strait of Hormuz closed for many weeks. Ending the war right now and opening the Strait would leave them wide open to being attacked by the US and Israel again in a few month's time.

He publically credited Hegseth for the Iran war. So maybe he will blame hegseth israel never gets blamed for anything not gaza not lebanon not anything.

You can see Trump here saying Iran has agreed to peace and they said they will not have a nuclear weapon etc.

I think that is it.

Trump never commits to anything long term. We know this.

Maga is split on this yes some support him. But will they in 6 months? He thinks not himself because he is indicating this will be a short war.

MAGA is not going to support a war with Iran that goes on longer than a year partic if prices go up. They support it now or some of them do but how long will that last?

Certain democrats were closing in the polls on JD Vance for the first time that is because of Iran.

If the war in iran ends soon the GOP could take 2028 if it goes on for longer than a yr i dont see that happening.

@ILoveYourVibes

I hear you, he even heaped blame on Jarad for not getting it right in advising regime change.

But he loves projecting success, so with zero wins in the entire middle east he's far more likely to simply walk away, walk on to Cuba perhaps, leaving behind the smoke trails of burning tankers, buildings etc..

But to do that he needs to shut doors on losers, and I reckon his lizard mind will eventually blame Israel.

I did see Israel floating the idea of hosting a US base, a definite sign that they're stretched as is, so will he face his base voter with assuming the costly full protection of Israel? I doubt it.