Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

Hurling the USA cannot unblock the strait nor can it even close the sky over Israel which is tiny. Ukraine is not going to be able to make one BIT of difference as they cannot even close the sky over Kyiv!

People need to be detached and look at things honestly.

Ukraine can't make one blind bit of difference in Iran. Whatever they tell you Europeans HAVE been trying to Open it and close the skies over Tel Aviv they can't.

Think about that .. the USA the biggest military might cant do it. What difference is ukraine going to make?

Iran has enough stockpiled missiles to keep bombing at this same rate for 20 yrs!

They have a population of 90 million and its YOUNG and they ALL do military service. (the men at least)

They have a bigger military than russia. Ukraine is not going to change ONE thing.

Not only that its AN ILLEGAL WAR. That is why the europeans are doing everything secretly. Zelensky could find himself in legal issues.

Its a war in which the USA bombed a SCHOOL. Why would you want ukraine to take part in an illegal war in which schools are being bombed by the aggressor?Doesnt that undermine zelensky and ukraine's position legally and morally?

I have a huge moral issue with Ukraine offering to help a side that is bombing girls schools . Sorry.

All Trump has to do is STOP bombing Iran.

On our way to Luga - (there's a song title in that)

What are you talking about ? I dont support Putin make sense.

The bombing of schools in ukraine or iran or gaza or lebanon is wrong. Funnily i dont see nafo stick up sticking up for Gaza too much.

Zelenksy taking a side in the Iran war is aborrent. Its disgusting. Its a slap in the face to the bombing of all the schools in the middle east.

Not only that Zelensky is now helping ISRAEL. The only moral position was a nuetral one. Spain is the one leading the world on that.

No one supports the bombing of schools in ukraine. Not because ukraine is special or because we are taking a side because the bombing of schools ANYWHERE is awful.

You cannot deny that ukraine albeit (however hopelessly as ukraine wont be able to make a blind bit of difference with iran) is attempting to tip the balance in an illegal war one in which one side Israel has attempted genocide in gaza and is NOW attempting genocide in lebannon.

Iran is not an admirable regime. But israel is the opposite side and its committing genocide. Zelensky shoudl stay out. Why because taking a side is inevitably going to help israel.

Now I dont think for one moment Ukraine can make a diff. But the fact its willing to act to help israel is sad.

I have a lot of sympathy for the people of Ukraine I saw bucha. I believe they have a right to defend themselves.

But they do not have a right to help a nation militarily when its committing genocide.

Helping israel right now .. isnt something ukraine is the only one doing of course and i dont hold them any more responsible than the uk or the usa perhaps even i can be a little more forgiving because of the position they are in. But its still wrong.

https://www.euronews.com/2026/03/17/kyiv-open-to-discussing-drone-interception-expertise-with-netanyahu-zelenskyy-says

Zelensky is every other month screaming about how he will help netanyahu.

Do I appreciate Russian attacks daily are barbaric ? Of course. That doesnt mean you can help another country do to others only worse because it was done to you. That is illogical ethically.

If its ok to help israel why wouldnt it be ok lets say to help russia? Neither is ok.

I will not engage in ad hominem.

That SOME are on the same side as Israel should make people pause. Not you yourself of course. I know you abhorr Israel as much as I do.

And you know it will. And you know SOME are on the same side as Israel certainly. And you also know I hate putin and I also hate the regime in iran. You know that very well.

What you dont know .. is what is coming. Some people might have misread the room. It might be me who knows.

Zelensky should be nuetral on iran. That is the only moral position.

One thing is clear at least. You can't be aiding the west or Israel with Iran and support Palestine.

You can be nuetral on Iran and support Palestine. But opening the straits helps Israel the most. I am just saying it like it is. Call me anti ukrainian or anti semitic. I am not. Call me a woman hater a putin supporter. Its not going to change anything partic not irish opinion.

Lol people have been calling us anti semitic for months you think calling us pro putin will mean anything to us?

Cool whatever.

This Russian troll is right.

Zelensky's actions are a slap in the face to gaza. I don't hold the ukrainian people responsible for one man. But its the truth.

He really isnt helping the gulf states trump just threatened to blow up their water supply they use the same salinated plants as iran does in fact israel uses the same supply partially. He might think he is helping the gulf states as trump probably thinks he is.. i think they could do without that kind of help.

May that kind of help never find me.

Putin actually spent four+ years blowing up water and energy infrastructure in Ukraine, including funnily enough a massive dam on the Dnipro causing an ecological disaster while killing thousands and reversing the flow of water to drought stricken Crimea over the Crimean canal

Why are you suprised his agent would now threaten to do the same?

Calm down. So outraged you needed to post quote two different responses to me?

I didn't say any of what you're posting so trot along with whatever agenda you're peddling, thanks.

Would agree with you they probably shouldn't help Israel - apart from the moral aspect it is just pure "tit for tat". They'd want to be getting some massive and rapid benefit to their own war effort from it (e.g. quick supply of ballistic missile defence systems) to consider it.

Israel is probably the "Western" country/US ally that did the least to aid Ukraine since 2022.

No sanctions on Russia (welcome mat out for Russian oligarchs). Ukraine was begging to purchase Israeli weapons. European countries also wanted to donate weapons with Israeli "IP" in them to Ukraine. However, Israel's govt. said "no" and (at least pre the Hamas attack in 2023) preferred to scorn Ukraine and saw staying in good books of Putin and Russia as more beneficial to their interests vs helping Ukraine.

Netanyahu is also a staunch political ally of Donald Trump, who helped him to power in the US again (probably the man who has done the most to obstruct and undermine Ukraine's effort to defend themselves from Russia since 2022).

Helping the Gulf states with drone defence is a different question and separate decision however, and my opinion on that would be the opposite (it is a good idea to help, dependent on their capacity to do so).

you might love my vibes but I not yours. Adieu.

Makes perfect sense for Ukraine to help out Middle Eastern sides defend themselves from drone warfare. How it can be extrapolated that is supporting an attack on a girls school only a psychiatrist could probably explain.

https://bsky.app/profile/specialkhersoncat.bsky.social/post/3midylsvuyk24

Massive explosion at the Russian Taneko oil refinery in Nizhnekamsk, 1130km from the frontline. Capacity of the Taneko oil refinery is 8,7mln tons of oil annually.

More sanctions applied!

Why would Trump want to destroy an ally of Russia, if Trump is now Russia's ally?

Unless you think attacking Iran helps Russia?

It does help Russia. Your mistake here is applying some sort of basic rationale or strategic acumen to Trump. Trump at every turn has excused and bent over backward(as far as he can get away with) to help Putin. Currently that takes the form of lifting oil sanctions on Russia while waging a war that has driven oil prices through the roof. A war which Trump is almost certainly waging because his other mate (handler) Bibi wants him to.

But would that not argue against your point of why you feel Zelensky has a moral right to aid these attacks in a supporting role?

Zelensky is fighting a war of survival. He doesn't have the luxury like the Tankies on here of criticizing foreign powers that could aid his countrymen avoid Russian genocide for moral point scoring. Not sure how that isn't obvious.

But he isn't. That is the thing. He isnt going to be able to help them at all. Ukraine has no bases in the middle east the whole thing is preposterous.

You may want to have a word with the Gulf states so. By all available reporting they've been clamoring to get their hands on Ukranian interceptor drones. Because firing extremely limited stockpiles of multimillion dollar AA missiles at 20-50k drones is a losing strategy.

Why would he want to help Trump anyway?

Theres a bunch of reasons if you think about it for more than a second. To curry favor with the US and keep intelligence and munitions flowing would be the most obvious one.