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Liverpool FC Premier League Champions 25/26 - Talk /Gossip/Rumours

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    I agree on Wirtz, but Eketike is clearly a baller too, and he was half the price. I still think that Isak will come good, and if they do start to click together, under the right management that 3 could be every bit as lethal as MSF, if not better.

    If they don't though it would be a major misstep from management (both club and coach) imo. All the makings are there, just need the people above them to get their sh*t together, or else let someone else in to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,137 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Oh yeah, for sure - I mentioned those other two because, while I am confident they'll be great, I'm even more confident that Wirtz will be a huge player for us for a long time. Those three could be our first-choice frontline for the next 5 years, and I think they dovetail nicely too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,884 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I have no concerns over any of our signings last summer, including the delayed transfer of Mamardashvili. I like Frimpong and Kerkez, Wirtz and Ekitike have shown their value - particularly playing together, and I rate Isak highly.

    Only one I am unsure on is Leoni, but that's more down to not having seen him much and having a serious knee injury as a teenager that he'll have to come back from.

    There's no player new this season that I think doesn't look good enough and I wouldn't want to keep longer term.

    And given the amount of players who could leave this summer, that's a very very good thing because if we had to replace the squad players on top of also cutting losses on recent signings then we'd be in a much worse spot

    As it stands this is a transitional season with a bunch of new players all of whom should be more settled next season.

    As it stands you could have Mamardashvili, Jacquet, Leoni, Kerkez, Frimpong, Isak, Wirtz, Ekitike as a lineup next season with only the midfield being here before 2025

    So that for me is the obvious next target along with Diomande (who I've now researched enough to really want). Camavinga and Wharton would both be excellent targets.

    Get Diomande and one of those and I think we're looking good. Elliott returning is the interesting one if we change manager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,172 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    I read somewhere that Leoni is back out running on grass so hopefully he will be 100% for preseason and can hit the ground running for next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,218 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    The sigings we've made are why I don't agree with the sentiment I've seen that "if Slot goes then Edwards and Hughes should go with him" imo they've not been perfect of course but so far I'm very happy with all the players signed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    I agree, the team was left unbalanced but the players that came in were all good signings. If Guehi had signed and Leoni/Isak stayed fit things would look a lot better, I suspect

    I think Hughes was the main one behind Slot's appointment so, if the Hughes to SA rumours are true, I suspect they both go

    Edwards seems to have been weaved into the idea of the multi-club model, which I suspect means he leaves too. Though that's probably dependant on what else is on the table for him. He could obviously take over from Hughes if he left but I can't see him taking a backward step like that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    Wearing boots too rather than runners which means he must be well along in his rehab.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    “We bring new players, we will adapt, we will try to understand each other and at a point, with time, we will win a trophy. We will have success and when we win the Premier League or Champions League, people will forget every bad season we had because now we won the league last season. This is just part of the success and we have to be relaxed because we have amazing fans, we have to stay together, and the success will come for sure”.

    These words from Konate don't sound like someone who is leaving the club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Wow, that's a very nice quote!

    I think an ideal world would be us starting the season with him and Virgil on the pitch, Jacquet and Leoni on the bench, and finish the season the other way round



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    We have to retain Konate, the other 2 centre backs are too young an inexperienced to be thrown straight in. If Konate does go, I think we will buy back Quansah.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭kc78


    Would Slot play Quansah though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    I think this season Konate has been through a lot, and without criticising him too much given his circumstances, he probably is entertaining less interest from other clubs than he was late last season.

    Having said that it will likely be a formative year for him, and I hope he becomes a better player because of it. He still has plenty left in his career, and if he can get to the point where top European clubs are coming in for him, and he can still be respectful to the club in how he handles his future, more power to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,884 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    My personal conspiracy theory is that he bigged up Quansah that preseason and took him off at halftime in the first game of the season as a warning to the rest of the squad that he means business - particularly Konaté.

    It makes no sense that he had Konaté, a regular international for one of the best teams in the world, and decided that Quansah, a young player who had only made his PL debut the previous season, would be the starting CB for the season.

    You could say that maybe Quansah was just that impressive in pre-season that Slot saw it in him

    That's fine, but Slot (no matter what some fans want to say now) is no idiot. He's been coaching for years and played the game.

    If Quansah showed so much potential all preseason to move clear ahead of Konaté in the pecking order, then how does 45 mins of football change that? Did Slot suddendly think oh I was wrong the past few months let's take this guy off and not play him at CB again this season until the league is won? That doesn't make sense. I can't believe that 45mins of a performance completely changes an experienced coach's mind after working with him day in day out before that for a couple of months.

    What I can believe is that he wasn't going into the game thinking "I'll change him at half time", but the circumstances allowed him to do that. I think much more likely he was giving him that 'first' chance of being the first choice partner for Virg for 2 reasons:

    1. To genuinely see if he grabs it by the horns, there's no downside to trying it. He's a young player who seems a bit more reserved so big him up and throw him into it. He knew he might need him at some stage anyway

    2. As a warning to Konaté particularly, but everyone else in the squad too, that you don't get your place on reputation alone.

    Then if he didn't hit the ground running, and circumstances allowed him to portray that at halftime in the opener, he can publicly haul him off showing everybody that he's not afraid to make tough calls and your place isn't guaranteed.

    In short - he was a sacificial lamb of sorts for a new coach to lay down a marker from day 1, and he wouldn't want to play for Slot again and Slot already thinks he can do better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    You're giving Slot way too much credit there. If he was the master strategist you suggest he is, able to make statements and administer warnings, why isn't he able to observe how wretched the team is, put a plan in place to redress it and sacrifice anyone who fails to implement it? Instead he persists with the same 11-14 players ad infinitum and makes the same mistakes every game.

    Maybe it's time for the Executives/Board to lay down a marker and cull the sacrificial lamb who is managing/coaching/standing near the players?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭Robert2014


    Also, there is the other side of the equation, would Quansah come back to a Liverpool managed by Slot?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Konate had lost his starting place in the French national team in 2023/24. Deschamps had been very critical of his lax attitude and he was an unused substitute for the Euro 2024 Finals. Klopp had been very strong in his praise of Quansah when he spoke to Slot about the squad, so it wasn't difficult for Slot to choose him ahead of Konate for the first game of the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Talisman


    The buy back clause for Quansah activates in July 2027.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,508 ✭✭✭mosstin


    Aaaaaaaannnnddd Frimpong is injured again. Made of steel in Germany but made of márla since he signed for us.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,172 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Looks like Isak will be going to the World cup



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Good, he'll need minutes ahead of next season. No need for him to come back unfit this time.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Apparently not, Koeman said it was a tactical switch. Bit odd though, he was only just on



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Yeah, read conflicting things, stupid twitter. Hopefully it wasn't too bad...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    Also gives him major motivation to get playing well towards the end of the season too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,884 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    He was on for 13mins

    Absolutely no need to make tactical changes in a friendly match that necessitates taking off a RB 13mins after you subbed him on, considering your starting RB had also been sent off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,979 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Yeah, just what I read initially, but obviously wrong. It wasn't actually twitter, it was the text commentary on the fotmob app which I thought would be more reliable...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,372 ✭✭✭brevity


    the squad isn’t big enough and doesn’t have enough quality so he is stuck with the players he has.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,884 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    And looks like he's back in team training tomorrow!!



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