US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

What “genuine, organic regime change”, for the people of Iran this is their last chance to change the last 47 years, if this fails they are done.

There are videos showing a silent uprising in the country and people are attacking the IGRC and Basiji, unfortunately some are also calling for their families to also be killed in reprisal for their actions, so internally this has the ability to turn into a nasty civil war.

What “genuine, organic regime change”, for the people of Iran this is their last chance to change the last 47 years, if this fails they are done.

Regimes can last a lot longer than that.

Genuine change usually comes from within a given country and, frankly, every time the likes of the US has gotten involved in the affairs of another country in the last 70+ years they've made an absolute balls of it and ended up making things worse because it's not so much "regime change" that they are interested in for the good of the people concerned, it's a regime change that's agreeable with US goals.

You won't bomb a people into changing it's government.

Same could be said for a lot of the GCC, especially Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.

9/11 is actually closer in time to the great siege of Mecca than 9/11 is to us now.

The oil curse dictates that those in charge become more entrenched against those they rule. Norway learned from the middle east and instigated state driven exploration and ownership, even if tax payers had to shoulder initial exploration costs rather than let outside profiteers in.

Oh ok, the IDF said they didn't do it - that clears that up so.

I know several Iranians, one of which I've had an in-depth conversation with on this topic. He wants the Iranian leadership gone. But what he, and as he put it "the Iranians", absolutely do not want is somebody else put in place by either America or Israel, who'll only end up being another puppet of theirs. And many Iranians remember what happened the last time that was tried.

If the Americans (and the Brits) had kept their noses out of Iran's affairs in the first place we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now.

I've been to a lot of different countries but my stay in Iran still resonates with me. Given that you know Iranians this isn't going to be news to you but they are probably the most kind and caring people I've ever met. When I travelled to the country, I went overland and crossed the border from south eastern Turkey. I ended up at an army outpost after I went through the crossing, it was basically in the middle of nowhere where I crossed and it was the middle of the night too. I wasn't afraid but it was all a bit weird and I was very tired too (I'd been travelling for almost 24 hours without sleep at that stage) so I probably looked like a nervous wreck. One of the soldiers spoke English and after welcoming me he started telling me that I shouldn't be scared because I'm in Iran now.

Reports of lethal hits in Dubai on US military that were in hiding off base. If true and confirmed it will demonstrate that there's significant local intel in GCC not sympathetic to the US propped up regimes.

I see you’re back to posting the same “Iran is heading for total collapse” take like it’s a certainty, when it’s really just your own speculation. It’s bordering on fantasy now, confidently repeatedly predicting one particular outcome with no evidence behind it. Are you hoping that if you say it often enough it will make it true?

There is no evidence that any of this will come to pass, and more and more reads like the posting of someone fantasying about it than any critical analysis of the situation.

Any time someone explains the reasoning behind Iran’s actions, you jump straight to accusing them of “cheering for Iran.” That’s been explained to you multiple times. Understanding something isn’t the same as supporting it, but you keep ignoring that and repeating the same line.

You did it to me last week as well, saying I was “OK with Ireland being attacked,” and couldn’t back it up when asked. Then it was “you’re cheering for Iran,”. When asked to show where I said anything like that, you just didn’t reply. Then turn up later repeating the same rubbish to other posters

You’ve also been misrepresenting other posts (like the refugee comment) to suit your argument. It’s a constant stream of bad faith posting and speculation, and you try to pass it off as fact while accusing other posters of all sorts. It’s unbelievably tiring.

I'm sure the Orwellian language is completely lost on that poster.

The war was already won no? So...nobody?

Are you following social media where they are showing groups attacking the IRGC and Basij? The controlling forces are weakened so no better time to rebel.

This is going back 2 days, no mention of a ballistic missile hitting anywhere.

The sad thing about this is that one place posts “something” and then other media sites take it as gospel, all trying to get their clicks with instant news, who cares if its correct or not.