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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @Dublin Calling i was lucky to get interviews with 2 people in RTÉ when I was doing my thesis!
    they have escorted out now!
    Only from the outside, perhaps admin building is the wrong term, this is the one to the left of the RTÉ logo as you face it.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    RTE online has posted a feature in their 'RTE 100' retrospective, the Gerry Ryan interview from March 2001, 25 years ago this week when he was top jock in the JLNR figures. Cover page of that RTE Guide shows him in Laddish pose as Neo from the Matrix, there was definitly a prototype Andrew Tate there. What's strange is that the interview then follows, but only a badly taken image of the two pages from that RTE Guide, with advice to click on it and blow up the image to read it. Has RTE lost the technical capacity to scan, copy, paste and format an archived document for legible Web text publication? A schoolchild could do it. 0 out of 10.

    https://www.rte.ie/history/100/2026/0227/1560850-rte-guide-flashback-being-gerry-ryan/

    Post edited by deezell on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,272 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Lazy and shoddy (and bigging up their past because there's nothing even they can big up about the present) is the RTE norm

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They have no archive items about the 2020s for their 100 years celebrations.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,443 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    RTÉ have released a tender document worth €30 million to make further technical improvements to the RTÉ Player. The contract is expected to run for a seven year term beginning in January 2028. It will provide improved technical support to allow users to view over 7,000+ hours of content on the RTÉ Player.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    Nothing changed then from the time that Video Tapes with Great Wanderly wagon episodes were casually written over because, well, erm there were'nt any spare blank video cassette tapes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    The RTE Player has improved a lot over the last year or so, but its no iPlayer, maybe this will make it much better, can't understand why they dont offer an advert free version for a small fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    There weren't any video cassettes in the Wanderly Wagon era. Early video taping was done on huge 14" reels of 2 inch wide tape, (Though the outdoor intro sequence in the Pheonix park, I think, was most likely shot on 16mm film). They were still using these 2" reels in 1978, and were transitioning to Ampex VR 1" machines, more versatile for editing. They had some ENG cameras by the 80s, Betacam pro I think. There were U Matic ¾" cassettes knocking around also, but I think the Wagon was all recorded on 2 inch tape. This ran at 15 inches per second, so the enormous 14" diameter reels could only record 60 minutes or thereabouts. I forget what a single reel cost, probably a weeks wages, but it was too expensive to archive on, hence reused. Several of my former colleagues jumped ship from the DoD signal corp same time I did, many ended up in the big editing suites of Ampex machines, where I'd hang out some times, but I stayed more hard core audio engineering wise,

    As well as the radio centre audio team I was part of, I had sole responsibility for a Storno diversity rx/tx system used by the newsroom reporter/cameramen, a duplex fm two way radio system thar could communicate from a handheld walkytalkie to a bigger newscar transceiver, from there to receivers in the main TV masts (Kippure etc), and back down the microwave links to the news room. The first nationwide mobile phone as it were. It worked well, when it worked, if you know what I mean. I was thrown in the deepend because of my military FM experience, but this stuff was head wreckingly difficult. Happy memories though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,905 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Shur it only officially went on the Firestick last week, which is probably the second most popular avenue for watching TV for many of us after Saorview.

    They should just do a carbon copy of what Channel 4 does. Never a problem there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    I have two Firesticks and I can't see it in the Amazon appstore when I search for it ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,905 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    You have to use Amazon.ie if you originally signed up on the UK one. Details in the "RTE Player Firestick" thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ ISL channel has been added to their player. Live channel. Looks like Children's TV during the day. The Idents tend to be RTÉ Player programme resumes shortly, with a RTÉ bumper when the show ends?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Does anyone know if the Irish game last night was encrypted on Sky in NI and if it was blocked on Freeview?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    Was it on Sky sport? Then itvwoyld be encrypted. RTE2 via the Astra satellite is also encrypted and only available with a basic Sky sub, but the match may have been geoblocked on Sky UK receivers, even with a Sky sub, so you'd need a Sky sport sub in NI to watch it, assuming it was on Sky sport or Premier. RTE2 ON RTE Player had it, but it might have been geoblocked to non Irish ip addresses.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,870 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    no, not on Sky Sports, they don’t have the rights. The non-UK games no longer have a UK TV rights holder but can be purchased on a PPV basis via Amazon Prime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    Long answer.

    RTE is not 'on' Freeview. Freeview is the channel list for Terrestrial UK broadcasts. If your TV is configured for UK, a scan of Terrestrial broadcasts will attempt to find UK channels and sort them into a list, first channel BBC1, and so on. If you're in NI and are in range of an RTE transmission (RTNL or 2RN, who run the ROi transmitters), Freeview will pick up the Irish channels, but not the Saorview channel list. RTE1 et al will be dumped randomly starting at channel 800 on the Freeview EPG. RTE obviously don't encrypt channels broadcast here, and they don't broadcast in NI afaik, other than spillover. That only leaves RTE2 on the Astra satellite, which is always encrypted, and is only available as part of a Sky Sub. I'm not sure if UK Sky customers can watch RTE, but if they can, it would only be RTE's own output, not movies, or internationally broadcast sport. The same georestrictions apply to RTE player if you try to use it abroad, unless you have a VPN or DNS redirect on your TV network connection.

    You may not be able to install RTE player on a TV in the UK, even here some TVs if configured as UK tegion to avail of the Freesat epg when watching the satellite, will only allow RTE player to show catchup, not live. The whole thing is a pain in the whole. BBC have made it impossible nearly to install iPlayer on your telly here, at least on Android tvs and phones, even if you try and spoof the set as being in the UK. My old Samsung had Iplayer on the Samsung OS, but it disappeared if you configured the region as Ireland.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,870 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    RTE (and TG4) is on Freeview, in NI from main transmitters only, known as the “mini-mux”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    In that case RTE probably didnt show the match from that Mux, if it's located in the UK. I wasn't aware they had taken space on NI Terrestrial, no reason why not, we had UTV on Saorview for a time, but they would not have rights to broadcast the match outside of RoI.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,870 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It’s not new, it’s been on air for thirteen years.

    UK Government announcement at the time;

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/access-to-republic-of-ireland-digital-tv-channels-confirmed-for-northern-ireland



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    We had a station owned by UTV, simply VMTV is a slightly worst ITV regional variation.

    Also is Saorsat still going?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    I vaguely remember something about that. More because there were no unionist protests when it was proposed, so it came in with a whimper, not a bang. 2013 seems a long time ago, Can barely remember what was going on then. 3 mux channels on the main NI masts must cost a bit, I presume govt pay the bill, or Rte, which is the same thing, taxpayers money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    A little search shows that they're not listed in the new Freely EPG system, which is in operation in NI.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    Saorsat still operating, again, afaik. The TVTrade shop which I browse down in Portatlington, or Freetv.ie as its now known, still have the Dishes and KA band Lnbs for sale, and the combined arms that give saorsat and astra off the same dish, which is handy if you've two sat inputs in your box or telly, as RTE is encrypted on astra. It means you can set up a single EPG on a manual box or telly that allows building a combined source epg. No VM channels though, but they're all on Play. I wonder what the uptake is, and the cost to RTE. I'd say its days are numbered, Eutelsat 9B is end of life in 2031, but will plod on if still needed i guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    Saorsat available without restriction in NI, the broadcast footprint covers the Island, and its free to air.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    The NIMux also carries RnaG.

    The UK government covers the annual cost of TG4 (and RnaG?) on the mux under the Good Friday Agreement. RTÉ covers the carriage cost of RTE 1/2. (Digital Switchover - UTV Region (DigitalUK) - Page 5 — boards.ie - Now Ye're Talkin')

    The mux uses robust transmission parameters to give best coverage for low power transmitters, DVB-T2 FEC 2/3 Mux Bitrate 9.8 Mbps.

    Ofcom Licence: Northern Ireland Multiplex WT Act licence (renewal 2024)

    From the Competition Authority Determination on the JV at the time

    M/11/038 - RTÉ / TG4 - CCPC Business

    27. The UK Government agreed to fund TG4’s costs in relation to the JV.
    RTÉ will fund its own part of the JV.

    On restricted rights

    43. … In addition, the programmes to be broadcast by the JV will be subject to rights issues (i.e., its parents will have to black out programmes for which they do not have UK broadcasting rights). This will further diminish any direct impact of the JV on viewers and advertisers in Northern Ireland and any indirect impact on television advertising in the State.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Saorsat transmits from Ka-Sat 9A at 9.0°E

    15 years in-orbit life expectancy, so end of 2025/early 2026. They might squeeze a few more years of operational life out of it.

    Now owned by Viasat, no operational replacement in-orbit. Slot and frequencies revert to Eutelsat once it reaches end-of-life.

    Viasat might move its hobbled Viasat 3 F1 over Europe (slot 13.9°E iirc).

    Post edited by The Cush on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    Great info. I hadn't looked that far into it, ir probably have just forgotten. but KaSat a physically different satellite than 9B, and much older, nominal end of life this year, it's mostly internet/comms, RTE uniquely its only DVB client. Easy to confuse with 9B on the combined listings. So is Saorsat toast if its switched off? Some sources say Ka bands on 9B are not configured/available for spot DvB broadcasting, though it has Ka capacity. There's some reference to "off footprint" coverage on some 9B Ku DVB listings, they have dual Ka/Ku colour codes on the charts. Does it mean a switch to Ku and a change of LNB for continued Saorsat reception? I can't see that happening, the 2% served (though not necessarily supplied) by Saorsat are easily accommodated by broadband TV providers and players these days. FTA non subscription players are just not seamless yet for the end user, but they're working on it.

    I had often meant to stick a Ka band LNB dual up for the fun, but it all seems redundant now. The astra FTA are not even watched here, my sat receiver died and is scrapped but the TVs have Sat inputs and are connected. I did have to replace the quad LNB a few years ago, but the rusting dish is 25 yo. I probably have installed my last astra dish for family recently, New house doesn't even have a chimney, so a back corner wall job was just about line of sight. Ladders and roof tiles not a great place to be anymore, for me at any rate. You sense TV from satellite is a dying format, though not for some time yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Saorsat ends once Ka-Sat reaches end-of-life. No Ka band transponders on Eutelsat 9B other than a Ka satellite interlink on the EDRS-A payload. It has 66 Ku transponders but Saorsat cannot use them due to rights issues.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭deezell


    Yes, footprint too big. Ka was focused and directable to just the island.



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