Navan Rail Line

Citizen Six · 26-03-2026 05:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124342508#Comment_124342508

A small amount of them also go to Connolly, from M3 Parkway.

Geuze · 27-03-2026 01:38PM

I still feel 60 mins is poor. We should aim for less.

I realise it's difficult with 12 stops, and all the associated stopping and starting.

Is there anything else that could be done?

Will there be 11 tph from Clonsilla inbound? 1x Sligo + 6x DART + 4x Navan?

I'd nearly suggest 2tph or 3tph to Navan if that helped?

Is it a signalling issue? LC issue? An issue to do with different speeds?

What will the speed limit be from Clonsilla inbound?

L1011 · 27-03-2026 01:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124345262#Comment_124345262

There will be no LCs. Reducing the number of trains slightly will not improve speed.

Having semi express trains would require massacring the number of trains, or quad tracking. And quad tracking simply cannot happen.

cgcsb · 27-03-2026 05:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124345262#Comment_124345262

Why is it poor? It is better than any form of transport currently available with the exception of helicopter. Also I could probably be doable in 55 minutes. Comfortably beating a car journey in the dead of night but available all day long.

Geuze · 27-03-2026 07:40PM

It's 30 miles………..30 miles…..in an hour.

Look, I'm not whinging, I support it 1000%, build it as soon as possible.

cgcsb · 27-03-2026 08:02PM

Its 36 miles by road. 58kms. That's fine for a commuter service. Theres nothing much better in similar locations around Europe.

goingnowhere · 27-03-2026 08:07PM

Assuming 90mph running will be allowed beyond M3 and the legacy alignment is fairly straight

50-55 minutes Docklands Navan would be possible, if you could run at 90mph beyond Clonsilla Junc cut another 2 minutes off that

Zebra3 · 27-03-2026 08:16PM

It’s not just about time tho.

Relax/work on train.

No stress about driving, accidents, other motorists, traffic lights,etc.

No need to worry about parking.

Service will connect at Glasnevin (and Broombridge) opening up all sorts of options.

This of course is all depend on IÉ providing a decent service.

KrisW1001 · 28-03-2026 09:18AM

It's not about time, it's about not having to drive.

I used to live in Munich, and for a while I had a 50 minute train commute. Some mornings I'd get on and one of my fellow passengers would already be fast asleep in their seat having boarded a couple of stops further out. Two stops before they got off, they'd stir a bit, and by the time the train got to their stop they were awake and ready to go. For them the journey wasn't a long commute, it was an extra snooze.

Try that in your car.

The Mathematician · 28-03-2026 10:56AM

It is also about consistency. If you are in a job where you have to start at a particular time, then if it takes one hour by car one day and two hours another (times just for the sake of argument, I don't know anything about this commute), then you have to allow two hours every day.

spacetweek · 28-03-2026 01:29PM

We’re getting into the soft benefits of rail now. This is an aspect that I think is often lost in Ireland, even the NTA themselves will dismiss public transport projects on the basis that it could be achieved more cheaply with buses or some other way. This wrongly assumes that the bus and the train are simply two ways of doing things and you just pick whichever is cheaper. Rail has many soft benefits.

When Eamon Ryan was minister for transport he went on about this a lot , and although I think his head was in the clouds on some issues he was totally right about this. Occasionally on Boards people have made comments about how some people have a boner for trains. If some seem to prefer and greatly push for trains, it’s because of those soft benefits, not some kind of fetish.

- Greater legroom, circulation space, tables
-Toilets

-Stations instead of stops often with parking

-Full or near full segregation from other forms of traffic

-Far greater capacity

-Greater space efficiency (buses take up a lot of road space)

-Less drivers needed for a given capacity

-Greater energy efficiency

-Expanding capacity usually does not increase congestion

Navan Rail Line

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