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Republic of Ireland General Discussion Thread 2026

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    When your on so much money a week and your a professional training every day those pathetic efforts by Browne and Azas are hard to understand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Give me boring possession when leading the game over long throws naively giving the ball straight back to the opposition any day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭Jaffa3000


    The squad is still abysmal in basically every area of the pitch. Even Troy Parrott (who supplied the goals when needed) isn’t really all that good and he’s the best Ireland has to offer at the moment. At best with this level of squad it’s a toss up whether or not they qualify, though given that much better sides didn’t qualify automatically, they probably “shouldn’t” be anywhere close based on the current level of squad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    someone who doesn’t normally watch Ireland play watched it with me last night, when we went 2-0 up they were over the moon but I said don’t get too excited yet as we always give away a stupid goal just after we score. It’s in the script.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,177 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    They were already beaten. We were the far better team at that point. We were in control. To do something like that is so mind bendingly stupid. Like you I kind of knew it would do us in. I said it here that's the moment that's going to cost us even with a goal to the good. Totally changed the game. They were gifted hope and momentum.

    Hard one to take. I'm not as forgiving as others about it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭scottser


    And that's why we should be proud of the lads for last night. They punched way above their weight and only for Manning's stupid foul for their pen we could have won last night. Granted, our short passing is often pants and it's of course disheartening watching us resort to long balls and trying to soak up pressure for an hour. But they gave us hope of qualifying and it's the hope that kills you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭dasdog


    I'm used to it at this stage.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,605 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Yeah, I've got a couple of lads on the u15s who have an instinct to put hands on the back. They've been doing it as long as they're with the team. I've been able to get another lad to stop doing it. But these 2, the brain doesn't get there in time to stop the arms doing it. I sub em off if they do it more than once in a match, to try to get them to be more aware.

    I saw a few of the Irish lads doing it last night. O'Brien was at it all the time, right up to the end. Even Collins pushed a lad over needlessly in the box last night in the 2nd half. Shocking that lads can get to quite a high level and still be doing really stupid basic stuff.

    Although 'brainless' sounds harsh, it's probably correct. It's an instinct thing, the brain wasn't involved in the decision-making process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭JM2300


    Exactly this, when you've practiced something 1000 times muscle memory helps get you through moments of pressure to execute. When under pressure more doubts will creep in if haven't taken many penalties recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭JM2300


    Browne doesn't know how to take them. Practicing them absolutely helps improve your chances.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,680 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    You have to be good enough to do that boring possession. So we can't "give you" some because this team can't do it.

    It's not like they can and are just to stupid to know they should.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,264 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yep and they probably would have crushed us too so we woukd only be disappointed then instead of now. No one to blame but themselves and manning with his stupid shirt pull. Cost us the whole game.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    We have won a few games over the years. What happened there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    I can - I think .. say with a reasonably high % - that Czechia will get no further. Next Tuesday Denmark will comfortably beat them. And if it was Ireland, judging by last nights performance, I think the same fate would await. We would have been prolonging the agony perhaps?

    Lets be honest - two poor teams playing each other last night. Ended evens with the dice throw that was the penalty shoot out, which is decided by how good your penalty takers & goalies are and on the night.

    End of the day Irelands two goals were a Penalty and an own goal. Yes they had other good chances but unfortunately they didnt work out. Overall and on balance its hard to say which team was better than the other. But really, both are poor teams and I think by tuesday both ( one already out ) will not end up in the World cup this summer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,764 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    To be honest every country around our size has similar. Been heartache for Wales and Scotland over the years too just that they had more success lately while we had it before that.

    Wales had heartbreak in 85, 93 and 03 and few bad result in between.

    Scotland have never once got out of their group at any major competition. Not once, even in expanded Euros.

    Ukraine have worse playoff record than us.

    Im not making excuses for last night and your point has lot of truth too, but your making it sound like we are only country that suffers these faiths

    Countries like us are most likely going fall short more times then not.

    Republic of Ireland and Brazil are only 2 countries who have 100% record of getting out of a group at world cup. I know, I know we only been in 3 but bar Euro 2012 we have had good tournaments

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    Stuttering is a skill that has to be practiced and it’s usually very very subtle. Watch back Schick’s two penalties, he does one slight stutter before he hits it. Our players (bar Parrott, Brady) looked like they’d never taken a penalty before, Azaz had a bizarre technique.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Azaz has taken one or perhaps two penalties in his entire career.

    Browne looked like he never has (probably hasn't).

    I'm still not convinced with Azaz and what he offers the team. He doesn't hold the ball, link up play well and just disappears too much at this level. One important assist aside, he seems to be a solution looking for a problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭crossman47




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I think that very poor loss to Armenia is what killed our hopes in the end. We would have topped the pool only for that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭Greengrass53


    Yeah.And if we got to US we would have won the cup.Shame.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Me_Grapes


    We got our penalty from an O'Brien long throw.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I'm a professional as well. How much money do you reckon I'd need to earn before I stopped doing the typing thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Nonsense. Im not talking about Barcelona in their prime levels of possession. In the first 20 mins we held the ball enough to create controlled openings with little surrender of possession. We mixed passing with well judged crosses and passing. They struggled to deal with that. After the first goal was conceded we panicked and sat back and invited them on to us like the old days.

    Putting low percentage long throws into the box when leading is stupid. Thats what you do when you're behind hoping for a break around the box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    We wouldn’t , even if we won in Armenia Portugal would have won the group on goal difference, head to head records didn’t apply in this qualification group.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JPup


    Browne will have been desperate to make up for the miss against Slovakia but his technique was very poor.

    The best penalty takers are the ones who walk up slowly and wait for the keeper to move. Let's call this the John Aldridge technique. It's a very hard skill to achieve because you are looking at the goalie as much as the ball. If the goalkeeper suddenly moves to the side you were planning to hit it, you've got to be able to switch last second to the other side. Only something that should be attempted by regular penalty takers. Probability of scoring 90%+ if you know how to do it (Aldridge scored 52 and missed 3 in his career apparently).

    All other penalty takers should use the James Milner technique. You smash it low and hard into the corner with the ball never travelling more than an inch above the grass. It's the highest probability of scoring for 90%+ of players. Every so often, you'll drag it too far and hit the post or the keeper will make a brilliant finger tip save, but most of the time it goes in. This is something that you absolutely can improve on with practice! Odds of scoring ~80% at the professional level.

    Azaz and Browne both chipped the ball a nice height off the grass, about two-thirds the way between the centre of the goal and the post. Browne's was especially nervy. If the keeper goes the right way, they are saving those penalties every time. Probability of scoring 50%-60% (allowing for the keeper maybe standing still occasionally).

    Practicing regularly can move your players up from pot 3 to pot 2. Most teams don't bother though because penalty shootouts are so rare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JPup


    Portugal wouldn't have been so casual in the 2-0 match if they new qualification was on the line, so you can't say that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Yes spot on - "After the first goal was conceded we panicked and sat back and invited them on to us like the old days"

    And not alone did we sit back, we kept hoofing thoughtless balls back to them so they could attack and attack.

    It seems to be psychological with these Irish teams .. issues with belief in themselves. As you said and in the match up until they conceded they were believing in themselves, you could see it in there play, confidence and passing. Up until then i was saying to myself WOW, this team have really turned a corner and could start to compete at a far higher level.

    But then when they conceded the penalty it was like a switch, they reverted to the old sink back deep, defend defend defend, hoof the ball anywhere up the pitch giving away possession. Im really not sure how you deal with a teams confidence in this regard. So I dont think its as much skill of players, its as a unit, they lose confidence and with that they become headless chickens.

    This seems to run through irish soccer teams for last two decades and has never been addressed?

    Do the players, does the team have sports psychologists and the like I wonder?? this is part of many modern sports now. How to deal with the headspace

    Maybe look at the Irish Rugby teams - I think they do all this kind of thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    A professional footballer doesnt know how to kick a ball into the goal?

    Really read that before you say it again.

    I can pipe a ball 250+ down the middle of a driving range ball after ball. But i cant do it on a golf course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭JM2300


    Some aren't very good at it. So they should practice in case they need to take one.

    They're not shooting into an empty goal, there's a professional goalkeeper in goal to contend with.

    So read what you wrote and let it swirl around your brain for a while.



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