Ireland vs Israel - To play or not to play, that is the question Read OP for Mod Warning

FIFA have used UN guidelines to develop it's own policies.

And as you and everyone else knows, Israel has violated UN resolutions which are legally binding.

Israel is carrying out a genocide. There's levels to this.

I drove my car without tax once, without incident. Should I penalised the same as someone who drank 9 pints, took some coke, drove at 110mph and crashed killing 3 people?

Stop being an apologist for genocide.

I'm willing to bet I know every bit as much about the word Genocide, as you do. But this is the internet, and we could back and forth claiming that.

But I can categorically guarantee that people who most definitely do know more about the word than either of us have stated that this is a genocide.

These are some of those organisations accusing Israel of Genocide.

Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, International Federation for Human Rights, Jewish Voice for Peace, United Nations Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices Affecting the Human Rights of the Palestinian People, Amnesty International, European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, Genocide Watch, Human Rights Watch, Trócaire, Oxfam, International Association of Genocide Scholars, Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders, Refugees International, UNHRC Commission of Inquiry on Gaza genocide, UNRWA.

Do you think you have a better understanding of the term and its application than they do?

You have zero evidence to support point 1.

Ive no idea what point you're trying to make with item 2 but it's telling you are stopping at stating that just reducing refugees could be seen as positive. Positive by what metric? If you had argued that reducing refugees because of unemployment levels, housing availability etc, then you can have that argument, but it's an argument that you are going to have show direct cause and effect links and not just Daily Mail type simplistic statements.

But we dont see such arguments made with logic and evidence, we see people with the Irish flag and a copy of the constitution rambling on about "our" culture when they can't speak Irish and do nothing to promote a positive Irish cultural practice.

So just because you want to say something will be a positive change, that doesnt mean you have a right to say it without being challenged.

Imagine in say 70 years, people are talking about the start of WW3. And someone mentions that there had been increasing dismay at Israel's brutal repression of the Palestinians, and escalation of conflicts in the Middle East which provided the catalyst for the war. (I'm not saying this is the start of WW3, but none of us can say that it isn't, given who is involved). This thread and the conversation it relates to started before this active phase of the war started, but there has been no question as to the inappropriate behaviour of Israel for what is years, at this point.

And someone asks what was the view in Ireland at that time? The answer will be that some people were vehemently against the actions of Israel and supported calls to act to demonstrate disapproval of those actions, and support of the Palestinians. But at the same time, other people thought it was more important that Ireland play 2 fixtures in the 3rd tier international competition that has only been invented a few years before.

You think the positive reference of women getting equal rights, blacks getting equal rights in the US is subjective? It most definitely is not.

And as for calls to protect the environment, there are literally entire professional careers dedicated to demonstrate the objective evidence as to why that is needed.