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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Palestine Chronicle calls it out.

    As for Benjamin Netanyahu, his objectives are neither limited nor concealed. This is not simply about neutralizing Iran’s capabilities. It is about reshaping the entire regional order in ways that would ultimately subordinate even Washington’s closest Arab partners and challenge the autonomy of regional powers like Türkiye.

    Such a vision offers little incentive for participation, even among historically compliant allies.

    It is therefore not restraint that explains the current distance of Europe and Arab regimes, but calculation.

    Had this war carried the appearance of legitimacy, the promise of victory, and the prospect of material or political gain, the familiar coalition would have already taken shape.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    As for understanding motivations I am quite curious into what sort of self hating ideology would lead anyone to hate their own country so much that they just shrug at the prospect of being attacked and say “this is fine, we deserve it”

    It's not shrugging and it's not saying it's fine. It isn't self-hating either. I have a brain that is capable of nuanced thought that can recognise my own contradictions and double standards and acknowledge them and continue with my life as best I can.

    Why waste your life convincing yourself the world is not what it is. Why do you think one must hate their own country if they can let themselves understand why they got attacked? It's lunacy. Your entire statement that I have quoted above is absolute lunacy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Good post, everyone should listen to Mark Carneys speech

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-speech-davos-rules-based-order-9.7053350

    We now have Trump actively trying to undermine alliances from the west while the Kremlin keeps doing same to EU, etc for decades now from the east

    We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.” - B. Franklin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,175 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The news regarding the USS Gerald Ford just keeps getting worse.

    https://www.19fortyfive.com/2026/03/u-s-navy-nuclear-aircraft-carrier-uss-gerald-r-ford-might-be-out-of-action-for-14-months/


    Not just forced to withdraw from combat ops due that laundry fire...
    But now looking like a significant amount of damage to add to the compounded maintenance issues.
    Now, What's odd is that the USS Nimitz's decommissioning was cancelled and return to service announced almost immediately with news of the fire breaking.

    The notion that a simple laundry fire burned for 30hrs and caused enough damage to necessitate a minimum 1yr in repair and overhaul for an essentially brand new ship?
    Is IMHO absolutely ludicrous.
    Far more to this than is being reported, I'd lean towards deliberate sabotage rather than an Iranian missile, but either way?
    Very telling of broader USN morale and readiness.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Or he would double down and lash out against the world and his sycophants would follow him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wildgreen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    As ive previously stated i live in the real world. The law is an ass. Ive zero interest in getting bogged down in that quagmire.

    If youre facilitating my enemy in their abilities to harm me you are not neutral by objective definition.

    If we bordered Iran and were allowing US troops to use our ports we would 100% be a legitimate target.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    They don't as far as i know need ministeral approval if they are classed as refueling- only stops. This caused a bit of controversy when the plane carrying shackled Palestinians that were being deported by Ice landed at Shannon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭rayman10


    That's good to see. The US just won't be able to contain this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    Yes, I think you are the only poster who understood my point.

    You cannot criticise Israel and excuse Iran, as many of the anti-US and anti-Israeli posters are doing. That is logically incoherent and hypocritical.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭yagan


    @banie01

    It could just be that corners on maintenance have been cut over recent years and this is a consequence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    They are not Iraqi resistance, they are Iranian proxies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭JohnDoe2025


    So if you bordered Israel and elected Hamas as your government, provided them with the support to conduct their attack on October 7th, and cheered and celebrated it afterwards, then you would 100% be a legitimate target?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Thankfully I think this war puts any prospect of Ireland joining NATO back many years. It's a defensive alliance and yet Trump/USA is insisting that NATO join him and Israel in this badly planned mindless aimless war.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,628 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Deliberate sabotage by whom? Someone objecting to the war or an Iranian sympathiser on board?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Cyprus did not allow US troops use their territory, nor did UK for their base in Cyprus nor did France for their base in Abu Dhabi, they went way out of their way to not get involved

    Still got attacked

    Same for Azerbaijan whom also got attacked despite not having foreign bases, disliking Trump due to his support of their enemies in Armenia, and being mostly same Shia religion and ethnicity as good chunk of Iran is

    Also got attacked

    I for one don’t want this country getting attacked by a bunch of Middle Eastern nutcases because we have US companies here and have deep ties to both Europe and US which our whole economy depends on, you have fallen so far down the self hating rabbit hole you are not able to see just how bizarre your stance is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Yet again there is massive hole in your post

    have any of the NATO members “joined” US in attacking Iran? If anything they have quite publicly distanced themselves from Trump

    He can’t even trigger article 5 as he is the one who has started the war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,175 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Sailors on board whose 6 month deployment has been extended twice and who will likely be 11 months on board before they get home.
    The same sailors who have reportedly being disrupting and blocking the toilets aboard.

    The ship is on its 1st full deployment, yes there are issues reported with the ordnance lifts and EMALS that were primary reasons it's workup period since 2023 to its 1st operational deployment in June 2025 have been so long.
    That said, those were reported as dealt with and the ship declared fully operational.
    Maintenance corners being cut on a nominally brand new ship that still had the builders aboard as late as 2025?
    Doesn't ring true, whilst it is a new class of ship, with new systems.
    The US has 85yrs+ experience of high tempo carrier operations, something far more insidious than delayed maintenance is at play here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Iran released images of the sites that will be hit if Trump attacks it's energy infrastructure. Also repeats again mines will be laid to the waters and communication cables in the strait that connects east and west which could cause some issues.

    cabels.jpg

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭yagan


    Micheal Martin seems to have a hard on for getting tight with some kind of hard military alignment. I thought his overlooking of party colleagues for the presidency race in favour of topgun was very much to have a president who'd bang the miliatary adventurism drum.

    Any way before this current fiasco Trump was doing an excellent job alienating NATO allies, first with his leakage to Putin over Ukraine, and then full frontal with his personal desire to "have Greenland".

    All this war with Iran will do is drive more renewables.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭bored65


    Who needs facts when you can have warmonger fantasies of this war spreading

    Which NATO members joined the US in attacking Iran?

    UK (under a Labour government), France etc all publicly and much to Trumps annoyance told him to get lost, while like Saudi Arabia they made it clear that if they continue to be attacked by Iran will they retaliate in kind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭yagan


    Thanks, I don't follow naval matters so that's interesting.

    I would expect long periods without land leave would cause problems. Wasn't it naval personal disruption that was a major impetus for the Soviet revolution?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭yagan


    Dow Jones teetering on a 10% correction from a month ago. If he's going to taco he better do it soon or he'll have crashed the stock market. With 50% of US workers with their retirement funds in stocks it will feel very personal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,175 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The 1905 and 1917 Russian revolutions aswell as the German Reich revolutions towards late 1918 all had a significant naval component.
    Similarly in Brazil in the 19th Century and in other febrile situations the navy often became a hotbed of revolution as the control of a navy offered revolutionary leaders a means of controlling a nations most powerful weapons.
    Naval vessels of the Gun era in particular, must be seen as powerful weapons that could fall under the sway of a charismatic leader with relatively few people needed for control, versus say taking the Bastille, or the GPO.


    Often labelled as mutiny rather than revolution.
    Indeed the US Navy has dealt with fairly charged racial/civil rights confrontation aboard a Carrier during the Vietnam War that's now known as the Kitty Hawk riot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Are you asking if Israels retaliation against gaza(hamas) for October 7th attacks was legitimate?

    Yes, of course it was. Thats where the attackers originated from.

    Was it an excessive response? Yes.

    Are they an occupying force? Yes.

    Are they Americas proxy in the ME? Yes.

    Are Israel a terrorist state? Yes.

    Many things can be true all at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭combat14


    iran now threatening to mine the entire gulf coast if attacked



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Aha! Someone had a word with the orange buffoon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Trump postpones strikes on Iranian power plants for a five day period

    The US president, Donald Trump, has said he has instructed the defence department to postpone all airstrikes against Iranian power plants and energy infrastructure for a five day period. This is subject to the “success” of ongoing “meetings and discussions”, he said in a Truth Social post.

    Trump said that, over the last two days, Washington and Iran had “very good and productive conversations regarding a complete and total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Thank fúck.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    And Brent Crude immediately collapses.

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