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Project Hail Mary

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭jo187


    I did like it, but thought very to long and boring in places. Noting visual interesting to me, a lot of the same space stuff you seen before.

    My wife loved it do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    WAAYYY too long and too many "endings". Like, how many endings does one film need?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭recyclops


    Movie is alot more about the bromance and less about the actual science both of astrophage and rocky so those you havent read the books may miss a bit

    Post edited by recyclops on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭tppytoppy


    Great movie. Looked lovely.

    Sandra Hüller was great and stealing the intelligent middle aged roles that Sidse Babett Knudsen was getting a few years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    really really enjoyed this. Got spoiled a bit for me hearing on the radio that an alien is involved. Really wish I hadn’t known that was coming.

    I would have preferred it if it was more serious though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭orangerhyme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Pretty much.

    The book is great. A real page turner.

    I think I enjoyed it more than the film for some reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Yeah I’d be the same. The book is just incredible.

    I see the author, Andy Weir has his third book ‘Artemis’ being made into a film to. I haven’t read that but heard it’s not great compared to The Martian and PHM



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think I knew nothing about the book before I read it so was pleasantly surprised.

    I think when he encountered another spaceship I assumed it would be Chinese or other humans or maybe humans from the future.

    I knew the author and that it was highly rated though.

    Yeah Artemis has mixed reviews but who knows it could make a great film.

    You can't beat sci-fi as a genre I think. So many possibilities. Only limited by imagination.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,717 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    The book takes a very jokey approach to the whole thing too, the film was never going to take a different tone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,128 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Great movie. The runtime sailed by, pace was great, looks fantastic, the laughs are genuine.

    My only real complaint doesn't actually relate to the movie in itself - but there's a radio ad that to my mind is quite spoilery and also tries to sell the movie as a wacky comedy.

    It basically uses the one quote from Rocky that makes it blatantly clear he is an alien life form that has encountered Gosling rather than potentially being anything without context, like AI, etc.

    Anyway, a great show overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,142 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Both 'The Martian' and 'Project Hail Mary' were amazing books, turned into very good adaptations, but where the book will still remain the primary version for me.

    Project Artemis is still a decent enough read, but I could actually see it being a much stronger film. There's loads of good ideas in there, so in the right hands with a hefty bit of trimming and tightening, and a better written lead character (Andy Weir's brilliant at writing the nerdy funny science guy, but not so strong on writing a precocious acerbic young woman) I could see it working really well on screen, and becoming the definitive version.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I thought the jokey approach was lord and miller, so yeah it was never going to be serious I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,146 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    I enjoyed this movie. I knew nothing about it so had no idea what was going to happen. Some lovely acting by Ryan Gosling and great puppetry work for Rocky. So much more convincing than CGI and quite moving in places. It's a wonderful family film as well. A real surprise.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    I enjoyed this (had read the book when it came out so already knew what the story was), and given the general buddy-adventure tone of it was pleasantly surprised to see some interesting and occasionally striking visual choices in it.

    I do think it suffers a bit from being too long for the story it's telling - e.g. for me the flashbacks take up too long for what they do, either for narrative or character, with the emptiness of Grace's pre-mission life lacking any context or sense of how he got there. And this is more of a Hollywood Filmmaking thing, but there's a particular sequence that just screamed "milk it for more dramatic tension" in a way that, for me, was counterproductive.

    I'd probably describe it as a sort of YA blend of Arrival, Moon and The Martian. For me not quite as good as any of those, but still a fun time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Project Hail Mary – 6/10

    A film I have a lot of admiration for, especially on a technical level, but one that pushed things too far in places for me to fully enjoy.

    It’s essentially a big budget, live-action Pixar film that doesn’t demand to be taken at all seriously. There were moments where I felt like it had a chance to be bold and try something new, only for it to revert to a safe, family-friendly affair. For example, the introduction of the rock crab felt properly weird and alien, only for it to descend into your standard, wise-cracking, slightly annoying, sidekick (who reminded me a lot of Amy the talking Gorilla from Congo).

    I’d have enjoyed it a lot more if it was 40 minutes shorter, and if it didn’t feel like Colin from the Fast Show had a pass over the script, but there’s no doubt this will be wildly successful with the wider audience.

    Surely there's a happy Sci-fi medium to found between the uber serious, overwrought sensibilities of the likes of Dune, and tongue-in-cheek wackiness of something like this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    some will love this but the flimsy parts of the plot (grace inventing an instant real time translator that doesn’t yet exist in real life in human languages).

    And spoiler…


    I have no idea how Grace saved rocky in the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,937 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Sometimes you have to suspend reality to not only watch and enjoy a film but to make it too.

    Of course the instant translator is total nonsense, but you forget the technology in the movie is more advanced than today as they have interstellar travel, which we'll most likely never have, but you don't question this.

    Do you want to want to watch a movie where they communicate everything and translate through a laptop? So you'd have to hear original alien language first, then translation, then the English language answer and alien language translation? That would be a painful 5 hour film so director had to make a choice to move plot along and keep viewer engaged and it was the right one.

    Also, Rocky wasn't saved by Grace. He went into a sort of hibernation/repair mode and recovered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it



    Spoiler spoiler spoiler



    why did grace turn around and follow rocky to avert crisis? What happened there? There was some talk of radiation or something but I didn’t follow it.


    In terms of a narrative following a semblance of reality, i can believe stuff like a bomb can be built that goes off if a bus goes over 50 mph even if that isn’t possible, but this movie asked too much. But it’s totally fine to not need this level of narrative tightness. I just do.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Maybe throw some spoiler tags in there lads.

    I've read the book but it seems you're dropping a lot of third act info.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    not sure you can on a phone


    I suppose I can do my own version



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,891 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I enjoyed this, Gosling was great and it's space. Little long maybe but kept my attention. I hadn't even heard of the book but sounds like it's good.

    I feel there were likely maybe plot holes but it wasn't the type of movie that it matter that much, although the main thing I didn't understand was:

    If the astrophage move so quickly and generate so much energy that you only need a small amount of them to melt metal or power a lightspeed spacecraft, why did we not anyone attempt to replicate the sun's energy using astrophage as an incredibly powerful energy creation source? Surely they could have used them to power electricity and heat like some sort of mega-power station many times more powerful than nuclear reactors?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,548 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    That was explained in the film basically.

    The taumoeba (which feeds on the astrophage) can eat through xenonite (that is the material Rocky's ship is made off). So Rockys fuel would be consumed and he would be left stranded in space.

    That was the gist I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,111 ✭✭✭Did you smash it




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,937 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Sorry but anybody entering a thread like this should expect spoilers at this stage.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    The film really glosses over this whole bit tbh, to the extent that I thought they were going to skip it entirely given how late in the runtime it comes up.

    Grace realises that the Taumoeba he has bred to be CO2-resistant are also capable of moving through xenonite - which the breeder/containment tanks are made of - and that as a result of this the ones on Rocky's ship will be able to break containment & eat all of the fuel. Then, with no fuel left to protect Rocky from radiation, they'll be stranded and left to die of cosmic radiation poisoning.

    Grace's solution is to go pick up Rocky and give them a lift in his ship. And presumably to shift all the Taumoeba into non-permeable containers.

    Anyone who hasn't read the book beforehand would be forgiven for finding that last bit an incoherent muddle, though.



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