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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I can't imagine the terminally racist being happy if Ireland was 90% foreign in perpetuity like the UAE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    You obviously didn’t read it anyway

    I gave up to be honest after reading about the lady bemoaning the fact she doesn't have children, although she is single, her last partner left her because he didn't want children. I feel for her.

    I did go back and read it, all 3 couples have houses, 2 renting, 1 owner, it would appear child care is an issue for them.

    2 Couples are probably candidates for social housing.

    You can blame our right wing governance for that, privatise everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Research on the effect of migrants on public finances in Finland found that Somalis had a net lifetime cost of € 951,000, while Iraqis cost almost € 700,000. When the migrants’ children were added, the figure for Somalis went up to € 1.34 million

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/21/finland-living-proof-of-the-lie-at-heart-of-mass-migration/

    No doubt it’ll be different for Ireland for some reason



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭riddles


    Cheap at the price for a large helping of cultural enrichment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Shur can’t we afford it anyway, we’ve billions to spend supporting citizens of other nations, after all they need our help and didn’t we go all over the world 🙄.

    The open borders Good Samaritans and Robin Hoods forget about our own citizens needs - shur haven’t they plenty of options 😂. The recent arrivals who risked life and limb to get here have nothing and don’t forget, we have obligations, international and EU. No problem that our own can be on waiting lists for years for health, caring or housing supports, they might have to pay through the nose for every service they need, or best of all, if things are tough they can emigrate !!

    It’s a deranged way of thinking - putting citizens of other nations before our own is seriously messed up.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    What is this place, Kippure?

    Every week, 40,000 gallons of human waste are trucked out of a refugee “town” in Kippure, Co Wicklow… The Ipas centre, owned by Goldstein Properties and managed by Seefin Events, has been paid about €74m in state contracts for asylum accommodation over the past two years, even though the CoCo has ordered the demolition of the “illegal” development. Indo alt link



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭riddles


    This is a quite literal example of being sick of paying for other peoples ****.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    This'll be ignored by all the usual people whose religion is that immigration is a universal benefit and any argument otherwise is racist.

    Great though to have another study to refer back to as very few countries have put out stats like this (because of the inevitable results) so fair play to Finland for doing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    I see some manufacturers are dropping the word "easter" from easter eggs.

    Madness



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,799 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Saw this one the other day..

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2026/03/19/more-than-17m-in-social-welfare-overpayments-paid-to-people-no-longer-living-in-ireland/

    Although they got 2.3m back, the best part is the very last line where when contacted, the Department had no comment!

    It's just fantastic how these Government agencies throw around and lose public money (ie : collected via taxation) and have nothing to say about it when asked!

    The amount of money being squandered in this country on randomers with sad stories, grifters, violent criminals, or just "gimmies" wanting what we have earned and built over the last 30 years, under the guise of "compassion" and "obligations" is staggering at this point, as is the number of people who are arriving here with the hand out each year - someone previously quoted 100,000 annually over the last 4 years.

    Yes, per the CSO, they say that in 2023- early 2024 30,000 of those were returning Irish citizens, but given how liberally we've thrown out citizenship in the last decade even that number is meaningless.

    Let that sink in.. Almost half a million people have arrived here since Covid, which itself caused massive damage to the economy and the lower paid/less secure natives and which we've never really recovered from despite the headline FDI numbers.

    HALF... A... MILLION people!!

    But no - their housing needs, their need for access to healthcare, education and other essential services absolutely WON'T have ANY impact on the ability to provide these needs, right? It definitely WON'T impact on the ability of the natives to access those same services either, right?

    Also, bringing in people with ideologies, cultural norms, religious beliefs that clash with those of a modern liberal and look largely secular Western nation with no plan on how to integrate these people (or worse, telling the natives that they must bend over backwards to accommodate this) definitely WON'T cause any issues either! Sure just leave them figure it out themselves, right? Doesn't everyone have a phone and Google now? Be grand!

    Meanwhile many of the natives are living in their parents house well into their 30s or even longer, can't afford to buy a home of their own, can't afford to rent or even find a place, can't start proper adult relationships, can't start families etc.

    It's no better for those who are living independently either of course - ridiculously high rents and mortgages, huge commutes in many cases (with costs massively increased there too in recent weeks while the Government stands by hoping "someone else" will sort it out - pity they weren't so slow at coming forward when it came to inviting anyone on the planet to come on over!), childcare costs, school costs and inability to find a place in both in a lot of cases now and all the rest!

    Then we're told how well off we are and how well the economy is doing! For who? I'm not seeing it when I walk around the town or when I'm in Dublin. I see overcrowding, traffic congestion, homelessness, a feeling of being in a minority and uneasy while walking through certain areas, and other problems. I see lots of new diverse faces sure, but I don't see the benefits that all this immigration is supposed to be bringing to OUR society.

    Whoever this is benefitting (and we know who is benefiting of course! - the NGOs, the private sector profiting from it, the new arrivals themselves of course!), it's certainly not Ireland, it's society, or it's native population.

    But none of that matters, right? Those are just crazy far-right conspiracy theories and xenophobic racist ideas, right? Sure isn't multiculturalism successful everywhere else and we're just catching up!

    Oh... Wait a minute...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    A lot of jobs provided by American companies are outsourcing to India which is worrying



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,304 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    It wouldn’t be any different if the research were being conducted by a think-tank whose raison d’etre appears to be publishing predictions based upon estimates using calculations which will produce the desired outcome.

    Also, bringing in people with ideologies, cultural norms, religious beliefs that clash with those of a modern liberal and look largely secular Western nation with no plan on how to integrate these people (or worse, telling the natives that they must bend over backwards to accommodate this) definitely WON'T cause any issues either! Sure just leave them figure it out themselves, right? Doesn't everyone have a phone and Google now? Be grand!

    But none of that matters, right? Those are just crazy far-right conspiracy theories and xenophobic racist ideas, right? Sure isn't multiculturalism successful everywhere else and we're just catching up! 

    Oh... Wait a minute...


    Enormous multinational corporations like Cadburys are being forced to remove references to Easter on our Easter eggs godddammit, just to pander to woke progressives and immigrants!

    The bastards 😒



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    Lots of Irish companies too which is even more worrying



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Patrick2010




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    There’s been a controversy in the UK after a Conservative MP said ‘mass ritual prayer in public places is an act of domination’, referring to the Muslim prayer event in Trafalgar Square.

    Keir Starmer said he should be sacked. Many other establishment types have condemned him. It comes at a time when a definition of Islamophobia is being drawn up, which will be enshrined in law. Labour have said it will have no effect on free speech, but before it has even been enacted, their leader is calling for a politician to be sacked for criticising an Islamic event.

    It was discussed on Trevor Phillips’s programme on Sky News, starting at 55:00. The Muslim panellist’s first words were, ‘I mean, can we just please just stop? This is just out of control Islamophobia.’ She went on to detail how she is integrated into British society, as if that contradicts the many who are not. I post it because it illustrates a point I’ve made before - in Britain, and increasingly in Ireland, you are not allowed to talk about immigration unless in the presence of an immigrant or child of immigrants. That person will be stridently pro-immigration and chosen specifically for their presentability, and it’s impossible to criticise immigration in their presence without seeming callous or, inevitability, racist. The result is that debate is inhibited and the immigration continues.

    There needs to be a ‘safe space’ in the media for indigenous Irish to reflect on the last twenty years of immigration and decide whether it should continue unabated, without the obstructive presence of someone whose very existence in Ireland depended on the immigration policy in question.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    While we’re spending billions on housing refugees from the world Irish children are suffering and dying from scoliosis due to lack of funding, heart breaking stories in today’s Sunday times



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Everyone thinking placating Muslims is going to go well should have a look at what happened with Australian PM Anthony Albanese last week when he visited a mosque.Despite continually pandering to Muslims over the years he was nearly lynched in this Mosque. Will this be a lesson to all appeasers of Islam in the west? of course it won't as deep down they just hate the west themselves and appeasing Muslims is part of this.

    The likes of the british Labour party who have continually pandered to Muslims in the UK are a disgrace and in my opinion I'd classify a lot of them as traitors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,304 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Despite continually pandering to Muslims over the years he was nearly lynched in this Mosque.


    You don’t have to exaggerate, he was heckled by a couple of protesters at the event where he was welcomed by the organisers -

    Several attendees accused the pair of being "genocide supporters", shouting "boo" and "get out of here" as a mosque leader gave a speech calling for the government to better engage with Muslim Australians.

    Shortly after the event finished, the Lebanese Muslim Association - which operates the mosque - released a statement saying Albanese was welcome at the prayers and that they would "continue to open" their doors.

    Albanese later told media he was welcomed by most of the 30,000-plus crowd at the mosque - which has been the target of several threatening letters in recent months.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz90wy2190go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    And called a ‘putrid dog’. It’s incredible. A mere three months after two of their co-religionists murdered fifteen people, they violently abuse the prime minister of their adopted country when he does them the respect of visiting their place of worship. Did you see that the very next day Albanese posted a picture of himself and his uber diverse staff with the progressive mantra ‘Diversity is our strength’? Is there nothing that will shake these people from their suicidal ideology?

    It won’t be a lesson because almost no one in Ireland will have heard about it. But they know everything there is to know about Donald Trump, thank God.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    the people targeting him this weekend are utterly deranged, saw some of the stuff posted and it was disgusting and no surprise it was from the same brigade who preach "be kind" etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    The abuse Ryan Casey is getting is just sickening.

    Most of them hiding behind fake profiles because they are cowards who are afraid to show their face when hating on a man who is grieving the loss of his partner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    There’s been a controversy in the UK after a Conservative MP said ‘mass ritual prayer in public places is an act of domination’, referring to the Muslim prayer event in Trafalgar Square.

    Text book bigotry, if he said it about Jews he would have been fired within the hour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Judaism is not a proselytising religion Islam is so for that reason alone its more of a problem

    Also Jews haven't held large scale prayer events in public which ban women Muslims have.They also do this constsntly in western countries , its a way if tying to assert themselves , when they do these public prayer things within Muslims countries they are often given short shrift by the authorities

    Silent prayer by Christians outside abortion centres is not tolerated by the police in the UK yet mass prayer in trafalgar square is.Footballers are warned about having messages praising jesus on their jerseys yet they stop premier league games due to fasting during ramadan

    Everyone with any sense knows there is an agenda behind these Muslim prayer events , everyone can see the increase in pandering to muslim beliefs despite the opposite being the case for other religions. People like you who think or pretend this isn't happening are just being used as useful idiots .

    Admittedly I probably shouldn't have responded to your post as you always seem to join a thread and take the non prevailing , non common sense view just for the sake if it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    I repeat did I say a scheme to make white people extinct , changing demographics only. An obsession with conspiracy theories to try to prove a point more like .Hope you grasp that it's simple !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Got proof or is that another conspiracy theory of yours .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Everyone with any sense knows there is an agenda behind these Muslim prayer events

    What agenda?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,750 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Of pushing Islam and it's values on the rest of society and slowly eroding the secularism which has developed in europe over the last 60 years.

    Continual allowances are being made to Muslim beliefs and beliefs from countries that are culturally islamic over the last few years, cousin marriage (which should be banned), halal slaughter etc etc. Of course you now this you've just decided to play dumb.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,671 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Continual allowances are being made to Muslim beliefs and beliefs from countries that are culturally islamic over the last few years, cousin marriage (which should be banned), halal slaughter etc etc.

    Cousin Marriage has been legal in the UK forever. Queen Victoria and Prince Albert were first cousins.

    Halal and Shechitah has been legal in the UK since the 1930s.

    How does either of does 2 things lead to the eroding of secularism?

    Baring in mind the UK is actually a monarchy, and the King is the Supreme Governor of the Church.

    It sounds like another one of these very secret agendas that no one can actually explain when asked simply.



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