Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

The flip side of that argument is Munster could easily have picked up 2 or 3 YC in the game but got none. A few penalties on their own line but a try was scored in next phase of two so the ref didnt go to his pocket, and there looked to be a knock on by Farrell in first half which wasn't properly checked. Could easily have been a YC.

There was one scrum penalty in first half which the ref got wrong IMO but beyond that there was nothing which stands out as 100% wrong (I only saw about 65-70 minutes of the game though)

Thakkir Abrahams rumoured to be off to the Bulls

Don't think he'd be a massive loss really.

no and would free up a niq spot too …and hopefully allow us get a quality tight head and decent back up to Crowley

Munsters "brand" stuff is utter nonsense frankly. Munster have been mediocre for the last 15-16 years. Thats the reality.

Munster aren't going to be able to stock the academy from every corner of the island like you say as players in other provinces will in all likelihood want to play for their home province. There is no "lure" to Munster because of the "brand".

Im not agreeing with you at all. The Munster "brand" stuff is utter nonsense. Players at academy level won't queue up to join the Munster academy because of the "brand".

You cannot sign solutions at academy level to fix the overall problems. Munster kind of tried that with Salanoa, Knox, Matt More. Look how that ended. Not exactly a resounding success.

To sign solutions means signing top level pro's but IRFU have limitations in place for NIQ signings for all provinces. So signings beyond that need to be IQ players from other provinces or the likes of a Bealham, Herring, Hansen.

The solution is very much closer to home. And it starts with coaching.

Regarding yesterdays result it reminds me of Tony O Reillys famous remark after an Ireland heavy defeat and poor performance"We were lucky to get nil" 🤣

Academy players in Ireland get paid about €10k a year. They all live at home for this reason so unlikely to move anywhere unless Munster are doubling their salary or providing accomodation for them.

Connacht's Academy has numerous players from Leinster, if they can do it why can't Munster?

Thanks Zeugnis thats exactly the point I was trying to make. I may have to send all future posts to you for proof reading first 😀.

Performance was shocking, 6 lineouts lost, only 4 won..22 missed tackles, 12 penalties conceded and dont get me started with the handling errors. Season has gone down hill quickly, we will scrape into top 8 if w are lucky but go no further, always knew this SA trip was going to be a struggle when we couldnt put Zebre away at home. There just seems to be no cohesion, what are the players doing week in week out at training, has Prendy already tuned out, and what is Lawlor doing, isnt he a "skills" coach or something. Now I know coaches cant make players catch a ball on the pitch but they have to be held somewhat responsible for what we are seeing. I watched some Super rugby for the first time in a long time on Friday morning. The handling, energy, pace was unbelievable in comparison to what we see week in week out.

prendergast …lawlor and Leamy I think are a big part of the problem …they have had a few years and tbh there is serious questions as to what they are doing and coaching ability …by all accounts they were a part of the problem which resulted in rowntree moving on ….maby he was the wrong person to leave 🤔🤔…..then they were sort of forced on McMillan ….we’ve a lot of deadweight in the squad ….some decent younger players coming through tho which is a positive .i hope McMillan is given free reign to make the coaching changes he wants and additions to squad he feels are needed …both in and out