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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    Very abrasive style, hope his body stands up because he is an absolute weapon the way hes playing at present.

    8 is tough in Ireland because we have a lot of options. Look at how good a club player Coombes, Deegan and McCann are not to mention Culhane, Gleeson, Kendellan, Boyle, SHL, McNabney. Tough competition, on current form hes certainly in the conversation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭lavrenti


    Jansen is a step above all the players at No8 you mention there Shiney, fine players as most of them are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    I tend to agree but its contingent on a healthy body and style of play is pretty attritional. I tend to go with the idea that the best ability is availability, hope thats ghe case for Jansen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,971 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I think I'd have him ahead of all you mention there, even SHL.

    I think Conan is the one blocking his path. As soon as Conan slows up or retires I expect to see him in the 23. Problem is Doris is the starting 8 most of the time and he's not getting in ahead of him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    7 games to go and not one is impossible in my eye. And no matter what happens an incredible improvement from the Wilkins era.

    More to the point it's an incredible achievement in such a short time by Lancaster



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    Looking forward to Lancaster leading the Irish team to victory in 2031



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,971 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Hang on, I'm looking forward to him leading us to our fourth Champions cup win in 2036.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Ulster Rugby vs Connacht Rugby
    Friday 20th March, 19:45 @ Affidea Stadium

    Number/Name/Caps
    15. Sean Naughton (10)
    14. Shane Jennings (30)
    13. Cathal Forde (66)
    12. Bundee Aki (159)
    11. Finn Treacy (17)
    10. Jack Carty (230)
    9. Colm Reilly (31)
    1. Billy Bohan (6)
    2. Dave Heffernan (228)
    3. Finlay Bealham (226)
    4. Joe Joyce (50)
    5. Darragh Murray (51)
    6. Josh Murphy (54)
    7. Cian Prendergast (97) (C)
    8. Sean Jansen (39)

    16. Matthew Victory (3)
    17. Peter Dooley (59)
    18. Sam Illo (41)
    19. Niall Murray (91)
    20. Paul Boyle (129)
    21. Ben Murphy (29)
    22. Josh Ioane (26)
    23. John Devine (2)

    Unavailable: Caolin Blade, Shayne Bolton, Denis Buckley, Oisín Dowling, Sam Gilbert, Hugh Gavin, David Hawkshaw, Mack Hansen, Temi Lasisi, Byron Ralston, Dylan Tierney-Martin, Harry West.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,283 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Gilbert out is a loss, but mitigated somewhat by the quality of Naughton's goalkicking.

    Colm Reilly definitely looks to have had a bit of a career revival under Lancaster, or maybe they're just thinking it's not worth giving minutes to Matt Devine when he's bailed out at the end of the season. Reilly is the guy who'll be there so more value in giving the minutes to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭typhoony


    You put your best players on the pitch regardless of where they are going.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,283 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Colm Reilly, who is 26, had barely featured for Connacht. He has 32 career games, 7 starts (including this weekend) for 874 mins. He had played exactly once this season (11 mins off the bench in December) before it was announced in Feb that Devine was leaving.

    Now he's been in the last two match squads despite there being no mention of Devine being on the injury list.

    It's possible they've just decided Reilly is the better player, but given how vocally frustrated they were with Devine opting to leave, it certainly looks like they've decided to back the guy who's staying instead (and I don't have a problem with that).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Devine was injured and unavailable last week, but this week he could have played.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭testtech05


    He had been going around with a brace on his knee for the last while so I suspect just not back fit enough to feature yet, same for the likes of SHL who is back training but not involved yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭CuriousCucumber


    Not always. You need to look at the long term picture too. It's not straightforward.

    We totally banished Ultan Dillane when it was announced he was leaving, which I hated from a fans perspective.

    Yet, we're playing Joe Joyce without issue, despite him leaving at the end of the season

    Trust is important too. If you dont believe players will give it their all, as they are leaving, then there is no point in playing them.

    Or if there is very little between the player leaving, and a player staying, giving the time to the player staying will help them develop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    There's a balance to be struck for sure - as you said, if there's a similar quality player who is staying, then pick them, but if the departing player is better and the game is important, that's a different matter. In the case of Devine, I get the sense there has been a falling out, but we'll probably never know the ins and outs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,283 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Yeah, I think there are different ways certain players move on. A lot of the time the club is fine with the player moving on, but that definitely isn't the case with Devine at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭KBurke85


    Lancaster said himself this week Reilly was injured when he arrived, has had to wait for his chance but he felt he played very well last week. I'd say it's just a case of he played well and they're rewarding him for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    I like the selection for tomorrow. First off it doesn't include Denis. Second Bundee has a point to prove. Third I think Jack is a better selection to Josh. Reason I say that is that Josh can break through lines but the Ulster line is hard to break. So Jack plays positional play which is what is required against Ulster.

    So I am of the belief it is the best selection for the game in front of us



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭kita99


    I wonder that B.Murphy doesn't start as SH. Is he in the short time slump? Or peak out of his ability? I think it is the latter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    Ben and Josh are a known good unit. So perfect for the bench



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Apparently Ulster are 13 point favourites with the bookies - that surprised me, as I feel we have a decent shot at winning. Hopeful of at least a losing bonus. Bundee and Cathal haven't made a great pairing in the past, but I'd love to see the two of them running over/through their opposite numbers tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I don't think we'll run through the Ulster centres. We should however be challenging Stockdale's decision making as much as possible; send late runners on his outside, overload his channel, etc. Defending at 13 is hard (which makes Harry West's performances this year so impressive to me) and Jacob hasn't done it for almost 10 years now. His only career start at 13 was at home against Zebre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭big-al


    hmm, bookies aren’t stupid, but I’m not sure they’ve realised the quantity of injuries/absentees Ulster have to their 1st XV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,971 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I honestly think we are up to taking the win tonight.

    They are missing a fair few players tonight. Izuchukwu, Irvine and Sheridan which means their second row is decimated.

    They are also missing Hume and Postlethwaite, I've no idea whose going to play 13 for them.

    So I'd expect to see us going up the middle a lot tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,283 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    There's no mystery, they've named their team. Jacob Stockdale is at 13.

    Big selection for him, his only prior start there as a pro was against Zebre 9 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭big-al


    ulsters 4 best centres are absent.


    Moore/mccloskey/postlewaithe/hume.


    im worried about ulsters 10/12 channel in defence.


    mushy is a very poor tackler and Carson will have a tough evening up against Aki.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭lavrenti


    I think if we get parity up front, and Reilly and Carty perform at half back, we could sneak this. Ulster have dropped silly points in recent games in Wales and our form has been improving. The top 6 are probably out of sight, although Cardiff and Ulster themselves could still slide, and we need an absolute minimum of three wins and bonus points to sneak into the top 8. A minimum of 46pts, and likely 47/48 will be required to qualify. Our best chance of wins are Ospreys and Munster at home, and tonight. We could pick up a point or two in South Africa and whatever happens if we can go into the last game away in Embra with something to play for we'll have done well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I think we will need an average of at least 1BP from each of the last 6 games if we are to finish top 8 with 8 wins.

    Honestly I wonder if we're better off in the Challenge Cup for another season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    Have to think Connacht have the edge at Centre and Lock.

    Away in Ravenhill, awful record in the inter-pros, Ulster are still favorites.

    If Connacht can stay in the game by the time Ioane and Murphy come off the bench they could get the win.

    Jansen THE inform Irish player not involved in Test squad?

    Ulster:

    Michael Lowry; Werner Kok, Jacob Stockdale, Ben Carson, Zac Ward; Jack Murphy, Nathan Doak; Angus Bell, Tom Stewart, Scott Wilson; Iain Henderson (capt), Joe Hopes; David McCann, Marcus Rea, Juarno Augustus

    Replacements: Rob Herring, Sam Crean, Tom O'Toole, Matthew Dalton, Bryn Ward, Conor McKee, Jonny Scott, Ethan McIlroy

    Ulster have 9 Players with significant mins over the last 2 rounds. With Carson and McKee also having played mins in the last 2 rounds.

    With TOT (TH!!!), Stewart, Doak & Stockdale returning from 6N squad.

    Connacht:

    Seán Naughton; Shane Jennings, Cathal Forde, Bundee Aki, Finn Treacy; Jack Carty, Colm Reilly; Billy Bohan, Dave Heffernan, Finlay Bealham; Joe Joyce, Darragh Murray; Josh Murphy, Cian Prendergast (capt), Sean Jansen

    Replacements: Matthew Victory, Peter Dooley, Sam Illo, Niall Murray, Paul Boyle, Ben Murphy, Josh Ioane, John Devine`

    Connacht have 7 Players with significant mins over the last 2 rounds.

    With Bundee, DMurrAy, Finlay and Prendergast returning from 6N squad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭big-al


    Ulster in Belfast is a different beast though. Even if Ulster have a poor 60 minutes, they can still put up and score a couple of quick scores.


    time will tell though, should be a good competitive game though



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