How long until we see €2 a litre and will it push more to EV's faster?

Telling people batteries don't last longer than 8yrs isn't simply negativity. It's factually untrue.

I've always had the opinion that there's a wee bit of begrudgery behind a lot of the anti-EV talk?

Thats an extremely vague question...

"…Tesla's own data show Model S and X batteries retain about 90 percent of their original capacity on average over 200,000 miles of use.."

Then you can take the battery and use it for home use. Because it's still a useful battery.

But obviously there components that fail that make it uneconomical to repair. But an independent might specialize in repairing them.

Below is a post on boards, a leaf needing a new battery after 4 years and 115k km. It's not exactly inspiring tbh, I know it's a leaf n outdated nowadays. Which also brings into play - depreciation on electric yokes and repair costs.

Registered Users, Registered Users 2Posts: 48 ✭ 20-06-2025 07:20AM

I bought a new Nissan Leaf 40 kw from the local dealer in 2021(1). Recently the battery percentage started to drop rapidly as I was driving, leaving me stranded at the side of the road. After weeks in the service dept of the dealership I’m now told it needs a battery replacement. This will cost just under €10,000 parts and labour including a 50% discount on the battery.
They tell me it’s not covered under the 160000 kilometre battery warranty, but can’t explain why. My Leaf is at 115000 k. Do I have any chance legally here? I’ve read people have tried and failed. Some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

That doesn't need a new battery. Its needs a cell in the battery replaced.

Another issue probably the more important one, Nissan is playing word games with the wording warranty so it doesn't have to cover the cost of fixing them.

Its all over the web, someone even on RTE about it. Puts me off Nissan entirely.

Telling people that the majority of batteries don’t last longer than 8 years isn’t simply negativity. It’s patently untrue.

Which statement is more accurate?

I’ve owned 3 EVs since 2018, 2 have had battery failures. One a 2016 Leaf 30KWh which started to fail just before 8 year warranty was up and the second a 2021 Model 3 with 100k km. I prefer to be honest about my EV experience rather than pretend nothing happened. I still recommend EVs but give my honest opinion that batteries can give trouble but it’s few and far between so no reason not to buy EVs.

I’d love a Taycan but simply can’t afford one. I keep an eye on the Taycan thread and tbf to the existing owners they absolutely recommend them as a great car but strongly encourage prospective owners to extend the Porsche warranty in case they give trouble. Why? Because while most won’t give trouble, a % will so best to mitigate that risk than be caught with a significant repair cost.

Personally I think this is the way for manufacturers to go. Put their money where their mouths are. If the stats prove that only a tiny % of batteries fail than sell extended warranties for their EVs and guess what many more people will be interested in used EVs

A lot of this comes from brand not standing over their own warranty. Refusing to repair things, or sell individual parts.

You get puncture the dealer insists they only fix punctures by replacing all the tyres on the car.

A battery isn't a single part. There are 100's if not thousands of individual parts in a battery.

I know a man who bought a petrol golf.

After 10k miles the clutch went. Covered by vw .

Another 10k miles clutch goes. Paid for new clutch.

Got sick of the car and bought a toyota. Clutch goes after 800 miles.

One man joked that clutches in vws are 10 times better than toyota

You would probably say he was heavy on clutches.

The funny thing is i bought his old car before the golf which was a golf too.

I got it with 24k miles done.

Clutch went at 125k miles. First clutch

You must have been buying the high octane electricity.

How were you paying over €1.30 per kwh? Supercharging in Bristol is £0.22/kwh

Only about 40 minutes or so

you could have done the same trip in a 2.8L Diesel Landcrusier and used HVO100 at the current price of €2.249 per L and it would have used 31.08 Liters of fuel costing €69.89, and still have change left, and you would still have your 40 mins. 😀

I once did limerick to Dublin return and it cost me €120. I did it in 4th gear and made sure to fill up at the most expensive station. I'm fully aware I could have done it cheaper but I feel my story is just as relevant as yours 👍

I used a fast charger the last time in my EV. Between 2 fills at home costing €8 each and the €25 at ionity kill it was under half the price of your journey for a little less than the distance you did

Looks like there's some relief coming from the govt today for those who still need dino juice. Whether it will be seen in driver's pockets or big oil profits remains to be seen

average lifespan of an ice is 100k miles, 160k km, ev are 120k miles, 180k km, and ev are lasting longer with better battries.

Is a usage of 600 km per month enough savings to get an EV ?