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2026 F1 General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    2013 was still the V8s and KERS. The major ruleset change was 2014.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭ImAHappyCamper


    I think my diminished passion for F1 is correlated with the career of Fernando Alonso! I still think he's one of the best of all time but he hasn't been a front runner since 2013 and it's not nice to see him in the midfield/back of the grid in terrible McLarens, average Alpines and now Aston Martin.

    The hybrid v6 engines.... does anyone have a background to their introduction? Like was it the FIA saying 'we want engines to be more fuel efficient, hybrid tech because we believe it will be more relevant to road cars in the future' or was it the engine manufacturers saying the same thing? I ask because has F1 tech made its way to road cars in the past 5-10 years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I remember The Race podcast talking about this in the past. The engine manufacturers wanted it. F1 doubles as research and development for them so they wanted F1 to track their future development. Makes sense for them and they're a pretty big stakeholder in making F1 work.

    Sport and war are the two big ways these companies can work on cutting edge technology outside of their own R&D programmes. WW2 was huge for engine technology from cars, trucks, planes, ships tanks. Sport is preferable to war, I'd say.

    In any case, it was mostly the manufacturers from what I've heard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    I assume these motivations are what's driving the current engine regulations.

    Which is fine, just make them work better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    IF sport is supposed to be the driving factor for tech advancement why not just abandon f1 for Fe then, "electric is the future", "ice is dead" and so on.

    Bolting insanely complicated e systems onto ice rather than just replacing it seems counter intuitive tbh



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah that's fair enough but it wouldn't be cutting edge technology if it just worked from the beginning. That would just be normal technology.

    The point, as I understand it, is to not change the rules too often, but make it challenging for them to get it right. That way the teams who crack the technology first by making it lighter/faster/more efficient/more reliable, get an advantage while the others catch up.

    If they all hit the ground running, then they'd be at roughly the same level for the whole 8-10 years of the formula or however long it lasts. And they have to change formula every so often or else it would become like a spec formula.

    There will always be some convergence towards the end of the formula, but that's unavoidable. So at the start of the formula you get some teams who take the wrong development path and are behind, and some teams who got it right and they're ahead. That sounds about right to me.

    I don't think fans would be happier if it was straightforward enough and all the teams got it right at the start. They'd just continue to converge throughout the formula.

    Post edited by El_Duderino 09 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    People Who call for a return to v10s haven't really thought about what that would mean. It's old technology and wouldn't be challenging for the teams, so they'd converge on similar design with similar outputs. The engine wouldn't matter to overall speed because they'd be basically the same.

    Manufacturers would get no new development from the sport so their interest would dwindle and they'd start pulling out. The prospect of a new manufacturer entering the sport would be reduced because it wouldn't be worth the investment.

    I'm not sure what would happen from there but it wouldn't make fans happier. Maybe the fans are at their happiest when they're being nostalgic about how great the sport was in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    ICE isn't dead though. It's just reducing in prominence. Electric vehicles are becoming more popular alright but they'll probably coexist for a while yet.

    If you want them to buy FE and turn F1 fully Electric, you could make that case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,420 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    theres still an astonishing level in investment in ice across the world, this tech is gonna be around for a very very long time, yes electric is the future, but ice will be here for the remainder of most of our lives



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    For companies of these sizes, you can either put it on the marketing budget like Red bull, Or the R&D budget.

    R&D gets massive tax breaks in the UK where most of the teams are based.

    No wonder they are pushing for spending all those $. If I remember correctly, the engines don't have a cost cap?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Sounds like Jonathan Wheatly is out at Audi already, and close to joining Aston Martin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I seen social media posts yesterday about Newey dropping the team principal role but you'd take them with a pinch of salt. It's such a mess from Aston Martin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,575 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    There's a budget cap alright for engines, and a development freeze too...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,094 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Motorsport.com are reporting it, would be considered a fairly legit source.

    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/adrian-newey-to-step-down-as-aston-martin-f1-team-principal/10806482/

    One thing though, wouldn't Wheatley need to do some "Gardening leave" before joining Aston Martin?

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,575 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Newey as team principal was always a risky move, there's a massive difference between leading the design team and leading an entire f1 organisation.

    Wheatley would be a good option, but you'd have to imagine Audi will have some sort of severe gardening leave period in place...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    I thought he was just in there keeping the seat warm for someone else anyway?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭ImAHappyCamper


    Christian Horner to Audi? 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,575 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Either way it was a shocking lack of judgement on the part of Daddy Stroll and Newey...



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    More of the blame should lie with Stroll since the Honda deal was signed long before Newey came on board I think. For sure Wheatley would be better than Newey as TP regardless. Leave Adrian to work solely on the car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,094 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    One year since Eddie Jordan's death today.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Jewry vacating the seat would seem to be a done deal, but it would be absolutely bizarre if Wheatley left Audi for that role, never mind having to sit out the rest of the season on gardening leave.

    The fact that Newey is vacating the seat now suggests they have an immediate replacement, and they can’t have no TP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,094 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    There's a few ex team principles that could step in straight away if needed. Gunther Steiner, Otmar Szafnauer, Jost Capito, Andrea Sidel.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,324 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Only a matter of time before AM announce him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    That is wild, also remind me that I can also leave a job if I want…lesson to us all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Aston Martin could but out the gardening leave possibly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    This is Astons Statement

    Screenshot_20260320-183817_X.jpg Screenshot_20260320-183819_X.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    a weird statement - it doesn’t address the speculation at all, and simply confirms that Newey remains a key partner and shareholder in the AM project, something that wasn’t in doubt, even yesterday.

    Odd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,263 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    You would miss him alright. Can't believe its a year already.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    They probably can't/won't announce anything until the papers are signed.



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