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Eating healthy is not expensive

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    You must be spending a fortune, at least €30 euro on strawberries alone ,one part of one meal, let along the rest of the fruit, have you worked out how much you are paying for fruit alone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 714 ✭✭✭waterfaerie


    Where do you get half a cow? I'd love to do that and buy direct from a local farmer but I was told it's not allowed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,490 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I’d tend to agree. We heat a bag of frozen summer fruits into a compote and that goes onto porridge or eat with yogurt. Leftover goes into fridge in a jam jar and does the following day. It’s very nice.


    Apples oranges and bananas are good for fresh fruit. One of my kids came to Aldi with me on Friday and threw in a watermelon and strawberries. Nearly a tenner there alone.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 carraigin


    Eating seasonal is good advice, however the provenance of your produce makes a huge difference. In Ireland, certain produce is more affordable because the farmers behind it are highly productive, which leads to an abundance of food that commands a lower price sustainably. Some inexpensive food on the other hand might affect your gut health. Regrettably, the supply chain is not optimised for eating healthy for various different reasons. One, retail chains have to strike a balance between making money and offering nutrient-dense food. If consumers are not willing to pay for wholesome veggies and fruits, they will stock the shelves with what you may call "empty calories".

    Two, Ireland's population has risen notably and some cantons of the populace cultivate different eating habits. This ties into the previous point whereby accommodating select preferences is profitable despite the ethical issues surrounding the choice of retail stock.

    Three, the country exports foodstuffs to markets such as China, the US and the continent. Irish consumers are competing with those nations for their own food and if farmers are getting a raw deal in the domestic market, they will naturally expand their horizons. Local and EU regulations are contributing factors to such free trade, echoes of which may cause alarm to those who have studied the Great Famine and the British Empire's laissez-faire policies in Ireland.

    If the people want to eat affordably without hurting their nutrition, many things will have to change. Starting at the farmgate they will need more automation, more productivity and in doing so thread a path across food processing, meatpacking, retail and hospitality so consumers notice a genuine difference in the price of their weekly shop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You wouldn't eat any for seven or eight months if you only bought in season.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,259 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    And that's the way it should be.

    I only ever remember strawberries (which I hate) in summer when I was a kid - the excitement of all the others when they started to become available!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Healthy diet and all that. The last thing I'd be concerned about for air miles is fruit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,716 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    As HH says, that's as it should be. My rule for any produce is that if we can grow it here, I'll only buy it in season. Certain things we'll never be able to successfully cultivate here, obviously, in which case I'll make allowances, but I still try and buy them from as close as possible (Spain rather than South America, for example) and while they're in season there rather than at a completely random time of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Frozen fruit arrives via sea,so no air miles involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    are you marred with 3 kids? Both parents working full time to pay the mortgage and childcare fees?

    Time is a huge factor.

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭littlefeet


    There was always plenty of food when I was growing up, maybe a bit limited in variety, but always lots of it. That wasn't the same for everyone.

    So it blows my mind that we have become so wealthy as a society that we can fetishise food.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,716 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    We very clearly weren't talking about frozen fruit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    We were talking about only eating in season fruit. If it's not in season it must be imported presumably.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,716 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Jesus christ. I genuinely can't figure out if you're deliberately being obtuse or just thick. I literally just said that very thing.

    I'm going to bow out at this point. This thread has basically been a real-world, real-time demonstration of the "deserving poor" attitude that is rife in conservative political circles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,102 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    We do not have any conservative politi s in Ireland

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Look at the availability of fresh food now

    25 years ago would you have had fresh blueberries from Peru in your supermarket?

    Or mini courgettes from Kenya?

    Or melon in the shop all year around.

    You wouldn't have had strawberries available all year round

    You are paying for the availability of those foods being bought in from across the globe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,508 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Yes, we've worked it out, we spend an absolute fortune on berries. Fish, dairy and meat too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 597 ✭✭✭myfreespirit


    +1 to this ^

    Buying imported fresh fruit out of season is naturally going to be very expensive. Seasonal produce grown locally is best - it tastes better, and it's cheaper.

    Strawberries or other soft fruits in winter and spring are generally tasteless and best avoided.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    You consider eating caged grain fed chicken healthy?

    Thats not healthy 😂 wtf do you normally eat if that’s a healthy step up?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    At the risk of repeating myself if you only buy fruit in season you don't eat fruit for most of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,691 ✭✭✭yagan


    I grew up in a five kid family with working parents.

    We ate well because processed convenience crap was more expensive. Still is.

    In Ireland an unhealthy diet is a choice. Anyone saying otherwise is lying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah but if you're trying to learn about 'healthy food', just look at all the rules people put on it. Look at the posts in this thread and you'll see how difficult it actually is to get good information. People talking about how you have to get locally sourced food, in season food, and some of the food you might think of as healthy are 'empty calories'.

    Eating relatively healthy can be relatively inexpensive, but it's complicated if you try to find out about it for the first time. This thread demonstrates its. Thread starts with chickpeas and sweet potato, then posters slag the poster, then suggestion to use AI and posters slag that. Then additional rules about locally sourced, in season and air miles and disagreement about what is actually healthy.

    If you think it's easy, imagine reading this thread if you were trying to figure it out for the first time and see what it's like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,508 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I'm incredibly impressed if you do this, you must eat very very little fresh fruit.

    If I were to do this properly, eating only what’s realistically grown here, we’d actually be eating very little fruit for a good chunk of the year. You’re basically talking about a narrow window. From around June to September you’d have decent variety, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, currants, apples starting late summer, plums, and tomatoes if you include greenhouse-grown. That’s the only period where it feels normal.

    Either side of that it drops off quickly. May and October are patchy enough, maybe some early or late berries and apples, but nothing like what people are used to now.

    And then from November, December, January, February and March you’re effectively down to stored apples, if even. No berries, no fresh fruit, no tomatoes, nothing coming off hedgerows. It’s basically a dead zone, almost seven months of no fruit.

    So in reality, if you stuck to Irish-grown fruit only, most families would end up eating apples, a few berries in season, and hedgerow stuff for a couple of months, and then very little or none at all for the rest of the year.

    I'm happy to spend the money, it's incredibly healthy, the kids love fresh fruit all year and the benefits show at home and in school.

    We try and offset the environmental damage by eating only seasonal fish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    yeah I agree its hard to get fruit here after Autumn and it must be even harder when you're feeding youngsters who want these fruits. However like a few other posters I try and mostly eat what's in season. I don't like the idea of fruit travelling across the world for months in chilled fridges on ships, then articulated trucks and on to the shelves here, only for them to deteriorate within 3 days. They also have no flavour.

    I eat Irish apples all the time, not Pink Lady. I also eat oranges for Vit C. The odd banana, that's about it. But I eat a lot of vegetables and reckon I'm getting most of the vitamins and minerals I need from them, and none of the sugar. I only eat what is growing now and in season in Ireland. I suppose I go with Mother Nature and what she provides in the country and climate we live in. I also grow a lot of stuff.

    Luckily my kids are grown now but even when they were small they got apples, oranges, pears and bananas in Winter. No melon or berries. In Summer they got everything that was available. They are both prefectly healthy, slim and fit now!

    I simply cant imagine the cost of buying all those berries every week, blueberries and strawberries in particular seem to have zero taste and are often mushy. Seasonal eating is also better from an environmental point of view. But like everything it's a balancing act.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,266 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,691 ✭✭✭yagan


    I've seen those posts and they're nearly all excuses for choosing not to eat well.

    It's just food. All I'm hearing is excuses to not cook, or excuses to keep eating emotional comfort food that's not good for them.

    Choosing to eat badly is actually more expensive in Ireland than eating dileroo/just eat, or exclusively from the freezer isle.

    I know people who've gone on the skinny jab without changing their diets and then act surprised when they're back to square one, even though their doctor and the pharma companies have explained that lifestyle changes alongside the treatment are required for best result. One such moaner even said "those jabs are a con!"

    There is definitely an abdication of personal responsibility. Convenience foods are the con. Their long term negatives actually rob everyone of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    We eat very healthy in our house. Theres only two of us and i would say we average €100 a week in Lidl amd maybe 20e in Tesco.

    We get breakfast lunch and dinner out of that 5 days a week.

    My wife is a stellar cook. What she batches in 2 hours on a sunday feeds us for the week. It would take me an entire day to cook it.

    Skill is the real commodity because if you have that then you have time to eat well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,711 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Even if they are excuses (not sure I agree as some posters seemed to be advocating for those rules about in season, locally produced and air miles). But even if they are excuses, how is someone trying to learn about healthy eating supposed to tell the info you think is good from the info you think isn't good?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    not allowed? because you need a qualified butcher maybe?

    i bought about €300 worth of beef from this crowd (big birthday present for my carnivore brother); at the time they had a half cow option on the site, but it's not listed now. might be worth contacting them to ask.

    https://bluestackfarms.com



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