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Liverpool FC Premier League Champions 25/26 - Talk /Gossip/Rumours

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,170 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Speaking of Isak,he is back out running on grass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭CajunSurprise


    Bajcetic and Gordon are more injury prone than Bradley they sadly aren’t ever making it at first team players at the club. McConnell failed at Ajax and will head out on loan again or be sold and Chambers will end up back out on loan again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,024 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Slot's lack of an effective system is what's failing.

    The players have had enough at this stage I'd say and I can't blame them.

    As bad as it is watching, to have to play that turgid shite must be awful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    I don't think it has that much to do with systems. 4-2-3-1 is a pretty straightforward way to play.

    The issues are a combination of being too risk averse, a lack of penetration in wide areas and a general lack of intensity all across the pitch. He can shoulder the blame for most of that but you can't absolve certain players lack of performance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,136 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Ultimately, for me, the players are at the crux of what needs to happen — we're all just angry bystanders, with no clue of how people feel behind closed doors. So really a big part of the decision to stick of switch before season's end should be done in consultation with the leadership group. The likes of Robbo, Virg, Alisson, and Szobo should just be approached for a quiet chat with Edwards/Hughes etc, about how the dressing room feels, what they think they need, and then we go from there.

    I wouldn't be all for inviting too much input from the players more generally — summer decisions should really primarily be the board's alone — but if you're looking for a sudden quick shift in attitude, the players are the only ones who can tell you what the vibe is like in relation to the manager… whether they're desperate to do him justice, or if they feel like they need some break from him. And who knows, maybe if they do like the guy and want to stick with him, that extra input and sense of their own part in the jeopardy might spur them on a bit.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭riddles


    23 players used in the PL this season - 12 players making up the most minutes played, almost 87%

    https://fbref.com/en/squads/822bd0ba/Liverpool-Stats

    Liverpool 3rd in distance in covered but its distributed over less players used. Wolves away marked the first time this season that Liverpool’s "High-Intensity Sprints" dropped below their season average for three consecutive games. Spurs at home.was the least ground covered all season which points to fatigue or fstigue listening to Slot.

    1

    Manchester City

    17,607

    2

    Chelsea

    16,300

    3

    Liverpool

    16,247

    4

    Arsenal

    14,718

    In the 2025/26 season, Liverpool’s physical and tactical identity has undergone a significant transformation under Arne Slot compared to the 2024/25 title-winning campaign. While the 24/25 season was defined by a refined "Heavy Metal" hybrid—retaining high intensity but with more control—the 2025/26 season has seen a move toward a much slower, more structured build-up that has resulted in a visible drop in high-intensity sprinting metrics.

    Tactical Overview: 2024/25 vs. 2025/26

    Metric 2024/25 (Champions) 2025/26 (Current)

    High Turnovers (per game) 14.6 11.5 (10-season low)

    High-Intensity Sprints (Team) Elite (Top 3 in PL) Mid-table (8th–10th)

    Average Shot Distance 15.9 yards 18.6 yards

    xG per Game 2.16 1.13

    Passes per Game 893.5 849.1

    1. Sprints Without the Ball (Defensive/Pressing)

    In 2024/25, Liverpool utilized high-intensity sprints primarily to trigger a high press. They averaged 14.6 high turnovers per game, suggesting a squad that was constantly sprinting to close down space.

    The 2025/26 Decline: This season, the "out-of-possession" intensity has cratered. High turnovers have dropped to 11.5, the lowest for the club in a decade.

    The "Passive" Shift: Rather than sprinting to regain the ball, the team is now instructed to hold a mid-block. This has led to a 34% drop in recoveries and a 75% drop in tackles per 90 from key midfielders like Alexis Mac Allister, as they are no longer sprinting into "duels" but rather shuffling to cover zones.

    2. Sprints Without the Ball (Attacking/Off-the-Ball)

    This is the one area where Liverpool’s "sprint" profile remains elite, largely due to the arrival of Florian Wirtz.

    Wirtz’s Impact: In 2025/26, Florian Wirtz ranks 2nd in the Premier League for off-the-ball runs (181) and 1st for runs ahead of the ball (47).

    The Directness Problem: Despite these high-intensity runs into space, the team is struggling to find them. Unlike the 24/25 season, where Trent Alexander-Arnold (now departed) would find these runners instantly, the current system relies on slower, "line-breaking" short passes that often allow the defense to reset before the sprint can be utilized.

    3. Sprints With the Ball (Carries & Transitions)

    Last season, Liverpool were a transition machine. Sprints with the ball were led by Darwin Nuñez (top 1% for time spent sprinting) and Luis Díaz, who used explosive bursts to turn defense into attack.

    The "Frimpong" Factor: In 2025/26, Jeremie Frimpong has become the primary outlet for sprints with the ball, hitting a top speed of 36.1 km/h. However, stats show a "hesitation" in the final third.

    The "Pass-Back" Trend: Fans and analysts have noted a shift where players now "refuse" to take players on. Instead of high-intensity sprints into the box, there is a marked increase in "knocking it back to a defender." This has seen Mohamed Salah’s touches in the opposition box drop from 10.5 to 5.58 per 90, as he is no longer sprinting at defenders with the same frequency.

    Summary of the "Intensity Gap"

    The 2024/25 season used high-intensity sprints as a weapon (pressing and counter-attacking). The 2025/26 season uses them as maintenance (recovery runs and positional shuffling). The loss of directness has turned Liverpool into a team that covers significant ground but lacks the "explosive" impact of the previous year.

    As of March 18, 2026, Liverpool's physical output has skyrocketed, but their league position has dropped.

    The Great Running Paradox

    Metric 2024/25 Season (At MW 30) 2025/26 Season (Current)

    League Position 1st 5th

    Total Distance Rank 20th (Lowest in PL) 3rd (Among Highest)

    Style of Play Controlled, "Passive" Possession High-Transition, "Ugly Grind"

    Points ~72 pts 49 pts

    Why the sudden jump in mileage?

    Last season (2024/25), Arne Slot’s Liverpool was famously the "laziest" team in the league by design. They ranked dead last (20th) in total distance covered because they dominated the ball so effectively that they didn't have to chase it. It was a season of "sterile control" that led them to the title.

    This year, the script has flipped. Being 3rd in total distance covered ($16,247$ units/km aggregate) isn't a sign of improved fitness, but rather a tactical struggle:

    The "Second Ball" Crisis: Tactical analysis shows Liverpool are failing to mop up second balls after initial headers by Van Dijk or Konate. This is forcing the midfield—particularly Dominik Szoboszlai and Alexis Mac Allister—to sprint back in recovery far more often.

    Predictable Build-up: Opponents have figured out the Slot "control" blueprint. By sitting in low blocks and launching long balls into the space behind Liverpool's full-backs, they are forcing the Reds into a frantic, high-mileage transitional game.

    Personnel Shifts: With the loss of tactical discipline in the press, players like the new signing Milos Kerkez and a rotating cast of right-backs are having to cover significantly more ground to plug holes that weren't there last season.

    The Bottom Line

    Liverpool are running significantly more this year than they were at the same time last season, but they are doing it defensively rather than offensively. They’ve traded the efficient "jogging to a title" of 2024/25 for an "exhausting sprint to stay in the Top 4" in 2026.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,024 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Everything you mentioned I would consider aspects of a 'system'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    I think this is the most palatable solution for club, manager, and most fans, and if he can get there would be a respectful way for the club to handle it and bode well for other managers in the future. At the end of the day 2 seasons is a decent stint.

    Personally for the right candidate I'd be ok to bring someone in for the end of season, but for someone like Gerrard I'd literally prefer Slot, even at risk of not getting 5th. There's very few candidates I think could actually implement a positive bounce, and Gerrard is not one of them. Alonso of course I think would be. The club have to be looking at some sort of back up plans, even if outwardly they have full confidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Bajetic was ran into the ground as a kid. Was asked to carry a weak midfield during in one of the ropey injury periods under Klopp,and never fully recovered,was it a back injury ?

    Completely avoidable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    I think most people assume you're talking about the formation when you refer to a "system".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,848 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Tbf, tactics and strategy has alot more to it than putting a nominal formation on a team sheet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    Would disagree. There's different ways to play a 4231 formation. I would call the different ways the system. Do they press. Sit, possession, counter, do the two sit tight or can one go (or in Liverpool case both of them??) are the full back moving up? Inside or outside? There's a million variables, that's the system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Perhaps it's semantics, my point was that I'm fine with the formation/system. I don't think changing to 3 at the back or playing 2 up top solves anything.

    It's as you say, more about the approach/strategy in and out of possession. We're not very good without the ball and we're not very good with the ball. Which is problematic.

    I think there are definite issues with certain players and they need to be replaced. Then there is a definite issue with the approach of the manager and performance level of the team as a whole. All of that is intertwined I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,848 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I'll look forward to the tie if we can progress like I would any CL Quarter but Christ the PSG scoreline is scary



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,924 ✭✭✭Damien360


    That PSG team is quick. Sit high and you get destroyed. Should we get past Gala, I fear what that PSG team would do to us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Quansah having a busy evening in Arsenal but he's done ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,136 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    We do at least have a game plan that works somewhat well against that, if we're on it. The formation we used against Man City last season in the second game - we used it against PSG as well, and it worked ok defensively, even if we really struggled to get out. But Mac and Grav as a pair of 6s, with Wirtz and Szobo in front of them as a pair of 8's/10s, with a pair of split strikers ahead, which would probably be Ekitiek and Mo. Narrow, but solid, with options on the break.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Bajcetic's injury was a result of the unsupervised weight training he did as a teenager. He suffered multiple fractures down the length of his femur, and had dismissed the pain in his leg as growing pains. The underlying issue wasn't detected until he was injured while playing for the first team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,848 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I have to be honest, we were completely dominated in the PSG away leg.

    I don't know how we didn't lose 3-0. I wouldn't call what our performance that time a strategy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,627 ✭✭✭✭retalivity




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,136 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    They were just way better than us, full stop. Absolutely devastating. That's an approach that, on our day, can at least maybe just about contain them it seems though. But if we catch them on another great day, it doesn't really matter what we do.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I thought it was growing pains has caused his injuries?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,403 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    I thought it was sympathy pains from looking at Gomez, Keita and Bradley on the physio table

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,061 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    I see Sadio was stripped of his Afcon title.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,364 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I've seen longer VAR decisions , 2 hours the VAR took in a game at Olympics , stripping Senegal of title for walking for for few minutes is silly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,364 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


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    So much corruption to strip Mane of his title. Ironically he never left the field.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,848 ✭✭✭✭noodler




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,924 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Law 3 and 5 according to AI of FIFA rules have walking off a pitch as a team without express permission is a abandonment. I'm guessing there was an appeal long after the event ? Would there have been a mini riot in stadium if they applied it then and there ? Makes a serious mockery of the African nations cup. Forever an asterisk beside the new winners title !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,364 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Oh well, guess we won't complain when we get awarded titles when City get their punishment in the year 2089 .

    Although I did read somewhere, that if City were stripped of titles, it's Man U that would be given the titles , not Liverpool.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,364 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    _________Alisson_____

    Gomez__Kon__VVD_Robertson

    ____Graven______Mac______

    Salah_____Sobo______Wirtz

    _________Ekitike_________

    Kill em that way



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