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Random EV Thoughts 2 - The Jimnying

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Sounds like you wouldn't want to or the car would be ready before you were halfway around the shop.

    I find on motorway trips the car is usually charged too fast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,570 ✭✭✭creedp


    The issue with a fast charger in this context is not the charger speed but access to the charger. Probably not so bad atm but if many others without home charging followed this approach access would become more of an issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭wassie


    If you are DC charging full time, you may need to consider what car and battery type you want in order to minimize battery degradation.

    Fleet management company Geotab published a recent largescale study confirming "if you use DC fast charging more often, your battery will lose capacity faster, on average". Highspeed DC charging in this case is referred to >100kW.

    But as always, this is an over-simplification and its probably more nuanced than this. But one of the key take aways:

    Where appropriate, prioritize AC charging or lower-power DC charging, only using high-power DCFC (especially above 100 kW) when operationally necessary. This strategy helps minimize battery stress, as unchecked, high-power charging can lead to an estimated 76.0% SOH after eight years, compared to 88.0% SOH for those who prioritize lower-power charging.

    There are so many more variables to this topic and I am defo no expert in battery techonology. I would suggest reading the report.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,570 ✭✭✭creedp


    I’ve read many different reports/watched many YouTubers giving a so called definitive position on this that it’s nearly impossible to be fully confident that there is the one best way to best protect an EV battery.

    More recently I watched a random YouTuber referencing research proving that to minimise degradation you should maintain the battery between 20% and 60% and charge at the lowest speed possible. He said he charged his own car at 10amps because charging at even 32amps produced sufficient heat to cause battery stress! He then concluded that even with all that pampering his car lost over 5% degradation within the first year, which is pretty average!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You'd be looking at massive efficiency losses charging at 10amsp, up to the 20% mark!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Since when is 5% in the first year pretty average?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,570 ✭✭✭creedp


    I know! Just shows you how people can get so obsessed about one issue they can’t see the bigger picture. In the case of the aforementioned YouTuber he even mentioned that he sometimes charges at 6amps if he has the time!! 6 bloody amps??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭JohnySwan


    To get that speed, you need to preheat. Can be done while stationary from the app, or on the move in the car, time depends on battery temp. My experience since January is about 30 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 stan bowles


    I’ve recently made this jump so thought I’d give my feedback, as others have said it depends on your circumstances. I live in central Dublin so don’t have access to my own charger, but I’m 200 meters away from an ESB charger and there is a Circle K only a kilometre away with a fast charger if I’m in a pinch. I also work from home, but have to go to the office in Limerick once a month. In general I’m a very low mileage driver.

    I went for the new IONIQ 6 as it has a big battery and fast charging (plus I really loved the car from the second I sat in it). So far I’m delighted with my decision. Yes it takes a bit of planning, and wherever I go I’m always looking for chargers to keep topped up, but it’s not been a hassle. Been up and down to Limerick twice and with a quick stop at the fast charger each way I was never in any danger of running out of charge.

    It definitely won’t work for everyone, if you do a lot of miles it will be a pain and you won’t get any of the cost savings that home chargers would. However the slight change of mindset around charging has been absolutely worthwhile for me, I love the car and would find it very hard to go back to an ICE now.


    Also thanks to everyone who contributes to this board - I’ve been lurking for months as I knew next to nothing about the practicalities of an EV before, it’s a great resource.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,034 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    If I were in your shoes I'd be saving all the car ownership costs and taking the train to/from Limerick, no need to own a car really in your use case.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 stan bowles


    I didn’t buy the car just to travel to Limerick once a month, I obviously use the car for other purposes. I just wanted to share my experience so far, and it could change. But there is a lot of negativity around not having a home charger, and to be honest it almost put me off making the change. And so far I’m really happy with my choice.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,565 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    we saw a polestar yesterday, and there was no rear windscreen - essentially a body colour panel instead. is that common?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 398 ✭✭tlaavtech


    Standard for the Polestar 4 up to now, but apparently they are going to start putting in a window. They originally thought that since the opening was so small for rear visibility, a camera was necessary so decided agast a window. They have since realised that this was a dealbreaker for dog owners….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭wassie


    It definitely won’t work for everyone, if you do a lot of miles it will be a pain and you won’t get any of the cost savings that home chargers would..

    Still savings to be had over ICE if you are doing high miles. Cheaper rates can be accessed though subs or manufacturer plans, which then become worth while.

    For example, of my approx 40K km a year, around 2/3 is on the road. I subscribe to Ionity's most expensive plan (cost me €100 as sign up special, normally €120) which gave me 44c/kWh (just gone up to 46c) and as a Tesla owner I get Tesla Superchargers between 30c-50c/kWh (depending on time of day) although these have just gone up also.

    These two suppliers alone cover most of my routes. With the Tesla Supercharger expansion currently this will get better still.

    But still good rates comparatively. Plus I haven't had any servicing costs in 2 years other than a new set of wheels. Still on the original brake pads after 5 years. And lowest rate of Motor tax at €120.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,602 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭wassie


    🤦‍♂️

    LOL. Yeah. But takes a serious hit on efficiency.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭plodder


    Not EV specific but this aspect of modern cars scares me as I've never had a car without a spare wheel before.

    Can't see myself resorting to this though …

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    not sure where to post this so mods feel free to move it if needs be….

    eon chargers not working properly in Arnotts car park - <1kwh charge. only found out about an hour later when i checked the car app.

    This was after waiting an hour to get a space with a charger - when i arrived the 6 spaces were occupied by 4 evs -but none of them charging! - and 2 ice cars.

    had to move to the APCOA car park on jervis street.

    i don't usually go into Dublin city centre - where are the best charging points to go to in terms of availability and speeds?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Just make sure you have an AA membership. Or manufacturer roadside assistance.

    The air pump and repair goo combo they give you with new BMWs/Minis will get you home too



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Most of the Q-Parks have Blink AC chargers in them - ranging from 7kW to 22kW depending on the car park and the charger.

    They can be somewhat flaky, and are often located in areas without signal or WiFi so it's a pain to get them started. Also they are not cheap - usually around 65c per kWh.

    However, there's usually a lot of them in each car park, and I think you can get a keyfob to avoid the signal issue.

    Not sure if you can start a charge with any other network cards for a cheaper cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,477 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    65c/kW on Electroverse which can be a little cheaper on some chargers, but obviously not for these. You get an RFID card from them which usually works instead of the app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Yeah it's definitely worth having a card around for those Blink chargers, a lot less faff to start than with the app.

    The Q-Park Setanta in particular the chargers are on Level -2 so there's basically zero phone signal (something I think charger operators should think about when installing - maybe throw a simple WiFi network into the chargers)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭evftw


    Went to cinema last night and saw that Polestar started a now campaign that was pretty much aimed against Tesla: "Say no to plastic interiors and popcorn serving robots". This may work for some potential customers but I see it as a desperate move. They did fire most of their dedicated product development team back in 2024 or early '25. Maybe they are planning to return back to their roots as of special trim of a Volvo.

    Stellantis have already fully given up, perhaps we will see a ICE Polestars again soon. Volvo V8 Polestar anybody?



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,552 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    They're still getting investments from outside partners and don't look to be making money yet. I think it's still a bit early for them to be wound up.

    https://www.electrive.com/2026/03/18/polestar-raises-an-additional-300-million/

    I think the advertising could work, a lot of early Tesla buyers did so because the technology was innovative and the cars were targeted at the premium end of the market. As Tesla have moved down market their consumer purchasable technology has lagged behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,128 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    They would be better off making cars people will buy and getting real on pricing, the p4 is a nice car ruined by a stupid decision at the rear (and they had to take a big chunk off the price to make it sellable) and only a mad man would pay retail for a P3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭discostu1


    Question, hope this is the right thread. Obviously petrol and diesel prices have shot through the roof, I'm wondering has the EV charging network seen any increase. There were news stories a few months back that the cost you pay to fast charge was roughly the same as filling up with diesel, if charging prices are static, haven't risen that must be a selling point.. I very very rarely use the network all home charging so just wondering



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I cant see public charging EVs increasing in the short time frame since diesel amd petrol starting rising sharply.

    That would need lots of new sales of EVs to people that dont have a private charger which i cant see happening until they have absolutely no option to buy an ICE.

    Might have a few extra people thinking about going EV but thats about it for the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Sort of covered already on the Ionity thread about a week ago. 69c gone to 77c or something like that. Others likely to follow I expect. Household electricity rates probably won’t escape either in the long term.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭discostu1


    Has the cost of charging on the public network gone up?



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