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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,246 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    I heard about that the other day and was surprised it had got no airtime. How can anyone keep working for more than a month with only a Trumpian promise of getting paid ? Well, it seems plenty can't, and have called in sick, leaving fewer and fewer colleagues to handle more and more travellers. Just as well the US isn't planning to host any major international sporting events in the very near future, isn't it ? /s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Sigma101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,337 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Good point. I should have googled for info first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,924 ✭✭✭Damien360


    I have travelled for work purposes to the US and meet my colleagues from all over the US. It's been a while mind you. But it's not that they don't care, it's that they don't see what difference it will make. There is a firm belief all politicians are crooks, I agree, and you are just changing the chairs around each election. Local matters, but barely noticeable above those who are party active and federal is just too far away to give a crap.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Seeing this published by Trump's favourite tabloid must rankle the man.

    A very clever way to drive a wedge were any of the saner western countries considering more full throated support for Trump or naval deployments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Fico has also pledged a flotilla of the Slovak navy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    how is it safe to negotiate the mines, pardon my ignorance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,617 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    There's no evidence that the Straits are mined. It's not in Iran's interest to lay mines at this stage - they can achieve the same fear factor by hitting traffic of their choice with missiles and drones while allowing their own and Chinese/Russian vessels pass through without risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,189 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Interesting snippets from UK Guardian interview with Pat McFadden, UK Work and Pensions Secretary:

    Asked if he believed Trump might reduce support for Nato if other members did not do as he demanded with Iran, McFadden told Sky News: “Well, that’s the president right there. The quote that you’ve just given has summed him up.

    “It’s a very transactional presidency, and our job is to navigate this, to always remember that the friendship between the United States and the United Kingdom runs very deep. It’s a good relationship. It’s enduring, and I think it will outlast all the personalities involved.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/16/uk-not-obliged-to-support-every-transactional-demand-trump-us-minister-says

    Guardian quite rightly call those comments unusually blunt for a UK government representative with respect to the US.

    What's very apparent is Trump has so badly damaged US/ UK-EU relations, that the latter are quite happy to more or less ignore or outright reject much of his bullshit these days. Without even performatively 'entertaining it' first.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    There's zero evidence available that the straits or mined not via OSINT or US.
    Do you have some evidence to the contrary?

    The shipping channel is only about 4km wide at narrowest point of the strait.
    With the channel itself being 30km, it's easily controlled via drones, missiles, artillery, speedboat/Kamikaze and other weapons such as whatever version of the CapTor or similar mines that Iran operates.
    Weapons such as those allow Iran to choose when to fire, when tomderonate rather than just a total area denial strategy via old style mine fields.

    The Iranians undoubtedly knows the value target discrimination affords them in how they choose to restrict or threaten particular nations or flags of convenience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,691 ✭✭✭yagan


    @Patrick2010

    No need for mines when you can just send a garage assembled warhead on a styrofoam drone powered by a 2 stroke moped engine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 562 ✭✭✭pad406


    I think Iran really has the upper hand on the Strait

    Even if the tanker company does have insurance coverage for the ship & cargo (unlikely), they also have a duty of care to their workers. Image what the, justifiable, lawsuits from family would be like for forcing your staff to sail through at the moment?

    And then they'd have the lost income while the ship was repaired or a new one built.

    Iran only need to hit the odd one, they don't need 100% success to have a stranglehold over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭tarvis


    BBC News 5 pm

    Trump said ”we have protected you for 40 years and you won’t now give us what we want “

    Criticising countries who stood beside you and lost soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn’t seem very grateful.

    Imposing tariffs willy nilly and making a mess of the world economy doesn’t seem very friendly either.

    You have an Armada in the Middle East. let’s see you use that before you berate every other country and demand that they hand over more young soldiers to face up to the enemy you chose to go to war against.
    Have you sought Israeli help ?

    Maybe it’s time to go home and stop bombing -



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    no I don’t have any evidence about Iran laying mines other than what I read online , CNN for example posted about it last week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Friendship will endure the personalities involved? Friendships are entirely based on the personalities involved. If one side of the friendship decides not to be friends, then the friendship's over.

    Best the UK can hope for is to have better relations with a succeeding administration, but that's not guaranteed to come in, and even if it does, it could only be temporary.

    @tarvis

    Criticising countries who stood beside you and that lost soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn’t seem very grateful.

    Honestly, it would be far more shocking if Trump had said something conciliatory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Putting myself in place of leaders around Europe whose countries are in NATO and depend on the US deeply, the strategy I think I'd adopt is try and avoid open fights with the US govt. (without abasing oneself before Trump, betraying your own principles and harming yourself that way) + quietly work away on increasing self sufficiency and independence.

    Just hang on and hope + pray democracy in the US isn't dead as a dodo, and current crowd's craziness and misrule will see them booted out when the time comes.

    If the other party (who doesn't seem to hate "Europe" and work for our destruction) get the Presidency next that would be time for eye-grabbing "no longer a trusted ally" stuff like removing US bases, telling more obvious spies in their embassies and such that they are not really welcome any longer and cancelling larger weapons purchases, making the EU market increasingly uncomfortable for their tech companies and squeezing them out etc. etc. (i..e. kind of steps that if taken now would cause massive blow back and rage from the Trump admin.).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    CNN's report of the minelaying was refuted by Hegseth a couple of days after they reported it.
    Couple that with Dom banging on about the destruction of the entire Iranian navy.
    The IRGC no doubt have the ability to lay mines via speedboat, but the Iranian navy itself is, according to the US completely destroyed.

    The CNN report.

    Reuters report refuting it. https://www.reuters.com/world/no-evidence-iran-has-mined-strait-hormuz-pentagons-hegseth-says-2026-03-13/

    There is no reports of mining via the major OSINT channels either and TBH, Iran don't need to do so as of yet IMO.
    They can control the strait via threat and stand off weapons at present.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,530 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Yes, and you can get a degrees in beauty and wellness and study hairdressing in Ireland. Might not pay as well as a degree in pizza making.

    Comparing Ireland to the US is apples and oranges. Your Irish degree is free. Largely because of US multinational tax revenues.

    And the highest ranked University in Ireland is TCD which is ranked 75th worldwide due to strengths in Nursing and Performing Arts. Engineering, Computing science, physical sciences it's ranked outside the top 100.

    There are thousands of universities and colleges in the US. There are 38 in the top 100 worldwide. In Ireland, there are 8 universities, of which 1 is in the top 100.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭freddie1970


    this is like something out of catch 22 the whole thing is completely bonkers the whole administration are nutcases



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,616 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The Strait is unbelievably exposed to attacks from Iran. There are hundreds and hundreds of miles of Iranian coastline from where surface to sea, underwater and sea to sea missiles and drones could be launched.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,543 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    How Europe should respond to Trump's call to help in Iran....

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,530 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    It's a farcical statement to make (the OP made it, actually.) The best degrees in the US are far better than the best degrees in Ireland. More Americans have PhD's than Irish though the percentages are low.

    Look, I'm not defending American education - it's a big problem and the ponzi scheme of student loans is a huge part of that. But, don't hold up Irish education as an exemplar, it's universities and technical colleges are second tier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,691 ✭✭✭yagan


    Your degree is free if your means get you a grant.

    And plenty of EU countries provide free third level without the same multinational tax take, so please spare us the US cheering.

    On the global standing I wonder how these Us colleges now fair for stem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 562 ✭✭✭pad406


    1 out of 8 compared to 38 out of thousands is a far superior rate.

    based on population they should have over 60x ours



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,968 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Although this might work, if it doesn't, then history will judge it especially harshly. Imagine it said with a black and white newsreel voice,

    "….and with the American administration having gone crazy, European leaders agreed among themselves to hang on for dear life, placate dear leader at every turn and hope the whole thing would somehow blow over!"

    Really puts the flack Neville Chamberlain got in perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,530 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Funny, it's not linear. Never has been. And all the '38' are far above TCD in the rankings, last I looked it was down with the sports schools in the US like UNC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Yes, fully agree.

    That was why I said they should not do this at the expense of their own principles, inflicting self harm that way.

    As many others commented it would be completely crazy and a disaster for any country in Europe to join in on his/Netanyahu's war.

    It may turn out to be impossible to avoid bigger blow ups and punishment from the US in any case.

    e.g. he might de-facto pull the US from NATO or at least accelerate a US pull back from the organisation using the excuse that members would not follow his orders re. Iran.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,543 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    TRUMP: We had one man who was very ill. It looked like he wasn't going to make it. Should I mention his name? Do you want to mention it?

    MIKE JOHNSON: Rep. Neal Dunn of Florida had some real health challenges

    TRUMP: His diagnosis was he would be dead by June

    JOHNSON: Okay, that wasn't public. *audience groans* It was grim. That's what I was going to say.

    Jesus Christ 😳

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Apparently Trump "is not happy with the UK"

    Sounds like unalloyed good news for a change(?)



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